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Henk

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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2007, 11:33:51 AM »
Ive bought glue from a repair guy back then(dont know what brand, but it was white and solvent free AFAIK) and only glued the nut slightly, blow over it so the glue does not penetrate the wood as much. I replaced a nut with this glue and it came out very clean on the nut's slot. Allthough it might seem strange to buy all that stuff to replace a couple of nuts i should add that i had a phase in which i wanted to do everything myself guitarwise  :oops:

Im sure you would be able to put the right amount of superglue in there and put the nut in on exactly the right place in one go. I however would make a mess of it for sure, superglue can really mess the guitars finish up and it pretty much sticks within a second. Since i also would doubt(sorry but im being realistic) gwEm could do it in one go i think he should not use superglue.

EDIT: adding a link about bone nut replacements

http://fingerlakesguitarrepair.com/pages/repair-descriptions/neck/nut/gibson-les-paul-custom-new-nut.php
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2007, 11:46:06 AM »
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Stressing this again, DONT USE SUPERGLUE!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you suggest instead?


I would ask a my repair guy to donate a bit of their glue for the good cause, the glue that i had before seemed like oldfashioned wood glue, but thicker/glueier and without solvents. When i later replaced that nut (yes i admit that working on very little things is not for me!) with a premade one it just came out clean, no glue residue to work out from the cavity, the glue just stuck to the nut.
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2007, 12:32:55 PM »
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superglue can really mess the guitars finish up and it pretty much sticks within a second.

That's very true, and because it's so thin it can run all over the place and the damage is done before you can mop it up, no matter how quick you are.  I buy superglue in the "one drop at a time" bottles, but even then it can splurge out suddenly and screw things up.

Of course there's also thicker "gel" superglue, which might do the trick.  It's not runny, but I don't know if it still sets really fast.

In his Guitar Player repair book Dan Erlewine mentions "hide glue" or "white glue" but I don't know exactly what they are - I assumed "white glue" was wood glue, but I wasn't sure if it would stick well to the nut material.
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2007, 01:36:34 PM »
White glue is PVA and works ok or you can use stuff like titebond.
Avoid using epoxy like Araldite etc - prevents future repairs

There is nothing wrong with using superglue, but dont use the thin stuff.
I use one called Vital Bond that works great in the medium viscosity variety(yellow cap on the bottle)

The thin stuff runs/splashes and is a damn nuisance- it does have great uses where you want it to penetrate- maybe to harden a screw thread in wood where you dont want the strapbutton to pull itself out as the wood crumbles where the screw has gone in
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2007, 03:21:38 PM »
right, i've got a TUSQ nut on order, going to give it a go.

possible expensive purchase mentioned was indeed what we discussed jonathan, if i make a mess of things i'll be round.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2007, 03:48:40 PM »
If you find alot of glue in the cavity i would let that be taken out by Jonathan, the premade tusk ones are measured on a clean base. I suppose cleaning out the residual glue wont cost that much.
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2007, 05:42:20 PM »
yeah wood glue works fine as well - the key with superlgue is to apply a small amount to the nut away from the guitar and dont rush!!