fender strat with floyd (flying V content)

[Spitfire]

does anyone know where i can find a 2nd hand fender strat with a floyd and maple board?? ive had a look and the only one i can find is on coda.. but that has a rosewood board and im not a fan.

P.S. i will be selling an ESP LTD flying V with floyd soon... v-350.. if any one is interested pics on request...
-mahogany body
-large pointed V shape
-set neck
-rosewood board
-licenced floyd
-Black
(im not selling just yet so im not posting it in the seconds out forum just now)

[Jonny]

It appears to be difficult to find one for you. Ever thought about putting one together?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Strat-Stratocaster-hot-rod-reissue-w-floyd-rose_W0QQitemZ300262787832QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300262787832&_trkparms=72%3A1301|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Spitfire]

is that a strat floyd body?? sorry i cant get onto ebay while im at work.

their were 2 kahler strats on coda about 2 years ago, i wish id gone and got one of them at the time, i was so tempted!!!

[Jonny]

Looks like it's routed for one, it's HSS though. But you can get enough bite off a single with a Sinner or an SD

[Spitfire]

HSS wouldnt be a problem as it would be my prefered setup, hsh does let u be a bit more flexible just changing the scratchplate tho.

nice middle output pickup set in that, would be a beast!! may even consider a higher output pickup in my SG if i manage to get hold of a strat.

[Sifu Ben]

Kahlers are designed to retrofit strats fairly simply. If it needs routing it'll only be a little, and you can get a plate to cover it if it's not the neatest anyway ;)

[FELINEGUITARS]

Kahlers come with their own issues and problems and are a very different machine to a floyd/fender tremolo
The feel is softer and they change the tone a lot

I know they have remained popular with Slayer/ Judas priest but they are somewhat of an acquired taste for sure

[Spitfire]

Kahlers come with their own issues and problems and are a very different machine to a floyd/fender tremolo
The feel is softer and they change the tone a lot

I know they have remained popular with Slayer/ Judas priest but they are somewhat of an acquired taste for sure

it does seem that because floyd rose is the popular one and kahler is the underdog...  people talk about kahlers like they have no flaws at all and are perfect but somehow this evil floyd rose has come and un justly gone and become more popular with a shoddy product.

its always the way with lesser known products.. their is usually a reason something is more popular.

not that i wouldnt consider a kahler.. but i would rather get a floyd as i am used to how they work and setting one up is not a problem.

[WezV]

Kahlers have issues mainly because they are the a misunderstood;)

they advertise them as a simple drop in on a strat, which they are.  But they dont point out the optimal saddle height for the bridge... because believe it or not the bottom half of the height adjustment is not going to work to well.  If you put one on a strat with very little neck angle you would probably assume you could set the saddles low since that adjustment is there. . .  If you do you definately loose sustain and string may pop out the saddle as it doesnt give a nice amount of downward pressure.

Once you get the saddles at a nice height (about 10.30 on a clock) then your action would be very high on a strat.  A neck shim is needed.  Not a problem but something people miss because they think they have it adjusted well within its range.

I like kahlers when they are set up properly.  I have a 7200 which is a USA factory made trem and i really like it.  The guitar its on has plenty of sustain (how much do you need?) so even if the kahler is robbing some its not an issue.  I like the softer feel as well - although it is leading to me bashing the trem arm into the body a bit too frequently :)

I have just ordered a 80's kahler flyer - which i believe is the model that had the most issues with sustain - we will see.

Not all floyds are created equal.. and strangely not all kahlers are either.  This is their comparison chart
http://www.kahlerparts.com/Other_Pages/Compare.htm

[Will]

Wez, you could have just asked and I would have sent you a flyer. :P
I like Kahler's. As Wez said, they are misunderstood, my best use for them is just as a real vibrato arm which has a bit of extra travel that stays safe with tuning.
I guess I would go for a floyd if I wanted to do big divebombs etc though

[WezV]

can i have a flyer ;)

[FELINEGUITARS]

Or recess the whole Kahler into the body so it almost sits flush with the top of the guitar - this allows the saddles to be set high so the string angle from the roller  to where the string rests on the cam is fairly steep - like the hour hand on a clock at 10.30 like you said

Not all Floyds are equal for sure
Many of the cheap licensed copies are complete junk
The original is still best in my eyes , although  Ibanez Edge & Lo-Pro Edge along with Gotoh copies are pretty good

Kahlers have issues mainly because they are the a misunderstood;)

they advertise them as a simple drop in on a strat, which they are.  But they don't point out the optimal saddle height for the bridge... because believe it or not the bottom half of the height adjustment is not going to work to well.  If you put one on a strat with very little neck angle you would probably assume you could set the saddles low since that adjustment is there. . .  If you do you definitely loose sustain and string may pop out the saddle as it doesn't give a nice amount of downward pressure.

Once you get the saddles at a nice height (about 10.30 on a clock) then your action would be very high on a strat.  A neck shim is needed.  Not a problem but something people miss because they think they have it adjusted well within its range.

I like kahlers when they are set up properly.  I have a 7200 which is a USA factory made trem and i really like it.  The guitar its on has plenty of sustain (how much do you need?) so even if the kahler is robbing some its not an issue.  I like the softer feel as well - although it is leading to me bashing the trem arm into the body a bit too frequently :)

I have just ordered a 80's kahler flyer - which i believe is the model that had the most issues with sustain - we will see.

Not all floyds are created equal.. and strangely not all kahlers are either.  This is their comparison chart
http://www.kahlerparts.com/Other_Pages/Compare.htm

[WezV]

yeah, i recess them to get the correct angle on my own stuff

here is the last one, recessed so the saddles can sit quite high to maintain string pressure:


still available if anyone is interested



with or without the scratchplate