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Vilches3

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Neck pickup
« on: March 21, 2009, 04:10:14 AM »
hey guys I just ordered a body from warmoth the other day. its made up of alder and flame maple, strat body. I plan on getting a VHII pickup for the bridge position but I havent decided on the neck pickup. Im looking for something that sounds nice and tubey and could get progressive. You know, do some shred on distortion and cut through, good fat neck pickup tone. At the same time I want to be able to get old school rock n roll tone and be able to capture neo classical vibes and hendrix like vibes when its tapped. I was thinking a mule since theyre flexible pickups?

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Rob

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 11:25:26 AM »
You want a Cold Sweat Neck

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 11:46:41 AM »
Well I'd have a VH2 or a Cold Sweat, but if you went with the Cold Sweat you'd probably have to ask Tim to calibrate it with your VH2 because there's quite a difference between those two pickups. If you did that though you'd probably get exactly what you're after.
The Cold Sweat won't really handle your vintage rock sounds as well as the VH2 neck model though.

Vilches3

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 05:00:46 PM »
Well I'd have a VH2 or a Cold Sweat, but if you went with the Cold Sweat you'd probably have to ask Tim to calibrate it with your VH2 because there's quite a difference between those two pickups. If you did that though you'd probably get exactly what you're after.
The Cold Sweat won't really handle your vintage rock sounds as well as the VH2 neck model though.

thats what I was thinking, and wouldnt the sweat overpower the VH2?...besides im pretty sure shredders like Satch, Gilbert and Malmsteen use vintage type pickups in the neck position. I imagined the VH2 wouldnt be able to do all i want

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 08:23:05 PM »
The Cold Sweat won't really handle your vintage rock sounds as well as the VH2 neck model though.

why not?
it's a 8.35k alnico pickup with very well balanced frequencies

it's more modern sounding cause it has more midrange than paf pups, but it's still slightly mid scooped compared to most bridge pups and it's a "vintage hot" output model, not a metal scorcher like its bridge counterpart
and considering the vh2 bridge is know as very middy, and usually matched with PAF models (which are rarely mid filled), I can't see why a cs neck wouldn't match it
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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 10:27:15 PM »
Are you comparing this again to the Duncan 59? Which IMO sounds more like the patent number (RR kind of sound)
All (good) PAF copies I have heard have a sweet mid push to them

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 11:52:27 PM »
Are you comparing this again to the Duncan 59? Which IMO sounds more like the patent number (RR kind of sound)
All (good) PAF copies I have heard have a sweet mid push to them

57 classic, 490r, duncan 59, even the jazz model, t-tops, seth lover, burstbuckers, dimarzio PAF classic, air classic
they all have a very weak midrange, imo
despite of sounding good or not
being as low output as PAF doesn't make a humbucker necessarily a PAF
if it is mid pushed, than it differs from the standard PAF sound

a pickup model that sounds close to some of our idols is not necessarily close to the pickups they used
people use Gibsons (VERY middy guitars with middy woods and construction) through Marshalls and v30's/greenbacks/g12h's and then attribute those mids to the pickups

most BKP models are named after an specific sound, but they obviously won't capture a whole equipment and tweaking, but they are usually voiced after that
the fact that Jimmy Page or Angus tones sound middy, doesn't make their pickups middy
maybe they even used the same pickups, but the black dog and riff raff are totally different models
so if a Painkiller is melting hot and middy, it doesn't mean that whatever pickups Judas Priest guys used to record were middy and hot

I think a lot of people get offended with the word "scooped" and attribute that to 80's thrash metal tones with mids on 0 and g12t75 speakers, but a pickup alone is a pickup and that's all
the final tone is a whole different matter
those scooped sounding bands in fact use heavily middy voiced pickups, while the middy sounding bands usually have very scooped pickups  :lol:
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Vilches3

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2009, 05:56:09 AM »
hmmmm idunno, im not trying to get TOO contemporary with the neck pickup. Only as contemporary as lets say malmsteen or becker or satriani lets say. Dont all or them use older fashioned stuff in the neck position? I want to be able to get some nice vintage tones but under gain get a bit modern and be able to do some borderline tube like shred stuff but nothing to pointed towards that. Abraxas? mule? black dog? Manhattan? hmmm

thanks for the responses

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2009, 12:53:01 AM »
any takers? :D

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2009, 01:05:45 AM »
Abraxas are nice pickups (the neck is much like an A4 Mule neck), but I wouldn't say they're modern under gain. I'd probably get a Cold Sweat or VHII neck, like the other guys have suggested.
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Vilches3

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Re: Neck pickup
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2009, 02:43:52 AM »
how do the VHII and cold sweat neck models compare?