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Vilches3

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VHII and Holy diver?
« on: March 24, 2009, 02:05:52 AM »
I read somewhere when using the search engine that they are tonally similar and the Holy Diver is like a higher gain and more massive sounding VHII? how do they compare besides output and the fact that the VHII is vintage and does cleans better?

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 07:42:49 AM »
Quote from: Vilches3 on March 24, 2009, 02:05:52 AM
...and the fact that the VHII ... does cleans better?
:o  :? um, really?

I don't have a VHII bridge, but it's certainly not true for the neck (actually I'd be very surprised if it was true for the bridge either).
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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 08:36:13 AM »
I have both sets in identical guitars (which I use for gigging).  There may be guitar differences, but what I hear under 'classic rock' gain levels is:

The VHIIs are thinner sounding.  They're like a beefed up single coil and do a great "Tele on Steroids" sort of sound.  Powerful and distorted, but clear and clean at the same time.  Very Van Halen-esque.

The Holydivers have more mids and thickness, and really sing.  Classic powerful humbucker sound, and very punchy.

Played clean, the VHIIs have more 'spank' and are quite Fender-like.  The Holydivers are similar but much warmer with more mids.
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Vilches3

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 10:34:30 PM »
holy diver good for getting "brown sound" as well then?
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Twinfan

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 10:37:32 PM »
Hmm.  Sort of, but more compressed/less open sounding.
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Vilches3

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 11:17:43 PM »
hmmm just asking cause i wanted to be sure that the VHII is what I want for my warmoth project.............Alder and maple, i want something that could get ALOT ALOT of harmonics even on just crunch settings. Whenever I try to do van halen type stuff my pickups can never nail those eVh harmonics on vintage gain like eddie lol. But I stilll wanna be able to accomplish a pinch of modern gain, you know just an all rounder guitar.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2009, 11:20:44 PM by Vilches3 »
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Twinfan

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 11:22:50 PM »
They're quite different.  VHIIs are more 'backed off', Holydivers are 'foot to the floor'.
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Vilches3

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 11:35:38 PM »
which one holds more tightness?.........and how does a vintage pup like a VHII handle extreme gain? im asking cause i took notice that Mark from lamb of god has a 59 in the bridge position of his guitars and he gets an insane tone for metal.
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Twinfan

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2009, 03:09:15 PM »
No idea - I don't do tightness or extreme gain I'm afraid!!!
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Vilches3

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Re: VHII and Holy diver?
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2009, 10:26:33 PM »
lol its all good, thanks for all the input dude
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