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tomjackson

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Installing Frets
« on: October 12, 2009, 08:40:23 PM »
I need to install some frets In a squire bass I decided to defret a few years ago, a few questions on the process:-

Is it best to buy a Roll of fret wire?

Is it easy to cut with pliers/snips?

Should I use glue or just friction?

What guage/type is usually used for bass?

What tools do I need?  Thinking snips and a plastic head hammer?

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Installing Frets
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 08:54:31 PM »
time to do some reading!!

*buying in a roll saves having to buy a bender

*some decent snips will do but you really need flush cutters or ground down snips to get it close to the edge of the neck

*i would glue with a refret to be save

* i like to go slighlty bigger on basses

* lots of tools.  you can do them with a hammer but it takes a lot of practice to get right.  dont forget you will also need to level, fress and polish them


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Re: Installing Frets
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 09:00:57 PM »
If youre doing one guitar, just get 4 feet of fretwire

You want heavy ass gauge for bass, but the wire is basically the same (6000 gauge dunlop is fine as bass wire).

You can cut it with wire cutters.

You can use either friction or glue; if the board is made from good wood and still holds frets well, then friction is fine. Glue is better, but more work to get in and doubly so to get out.

You will need

- a fret bender or two pairs of pliers and gaffa/masking tape. You have to bend the frets before they go in - if you dont you'll never get them to sit evenly across the fretboard. Fret benders can be bought for extortionate sums or made. I made mine by cutting a curved bit of wood with a jigsaw and cutting a groove in that with a little circular saw attachment for a dremel.

- Clippers/wire cutters to crop them close to the board.

- Rubber mallet.

- A very, very steady hand and good eye with a sharpening stone or similar to bevel the edges to 30 degrees (or near enough) OR a flat file in a suitable jig that holds the file at the right angle OR the appropriate (but expensive) tool from stewmac

- Small, fine files to smooth and slightly round off the ends.

- Standard fret leveling and crowning gear - fret leveling file, crowning files, wire wool, fretboard guard, and micromeshes help A LOT to finish it up. I'm gonna assume you've already done fret dressing and dont need a lesson, if youre doing a frefret. IMO the work of a refret, if the frets are already out, is 10% getting new ones in, 40% getting the ends of the frets right, 50% dressing the frets.

Theres potentially way more to it, depending what you run into (chipping the board, filling in the ends of the slots if the tang doesnt go all the way out, touching up the neck) and, while pretty good at dressing frets I'm still a bit of a n00b at doing full refrets (mainly getting the ends really consistent and tidy), so wait for a luthier to come a long and contradict me/add stuff I never would have thought of!

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Re: Installing Frets
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 09:01:40 PM »
Ah, one already did. But no contradictions, yay!

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Re: Installing Frets
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2009, 09:43:40 PM »
Thanks for the info fellas.

I think I'll get a roll then.  Yes, I have dressed frets on my own guitars before, probably not the correct way, I've used masking tape, a wooden block and fine sand paper, nail files and Autosol metal polish in the past.  Sounds crude but with a little patience I can get them smooth as mirrors!

Incedently the Autosol is great for polishing them, especially with a soft dremel buffer.

I'll see how I go on, fortunately the guitar is not at all valuable if I mess it up!

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Re: Installing Frets
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2009, 09:48:07 PM »
Yeah, go for it.

And until I tooled up a little better last year, I spent about 7 years doing fret dresses with a sharpening stone (to level them) a particular nailfile from boots that had a nice grain to it and was padded (to crown them), and wire wool (to smooth them)!

My first couple of efforts with a proper levelling file, diamond crowning file and wire wool and micromeshes werent as good as what I used to do with that! (though now as good (very good) with much less work).

I still use a bit of a can of coke with a fret shaped hole cut out of it to protect the fretboard and not waste masking tape though!
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Re: Installing Frets
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 08:18:03 AM »
I still use a bit of a can of coke with a fret shaped hole cut out of it to protect the fretboard and not waste masking tape though!

Another good idea......  I think I'll use a Stella can however :D

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Re: Installing Frets
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 10:30:38 AM »
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