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tspaceman3

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Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« on: February 09, 2010, 04:06:03 PM »
Hello

I am about to replace the pickups in my 69 Thinline Tele. I have decided on a set of blackguards but cannot decide between the flat or stagger sets.

I would be most grateful if anyone could advise me on how the two sets differ tonally.

Many thanks

Tom

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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 05:15:02 PM »
Go to the player's section and check out the 1st and 4th sticky posts from the top.
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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 11:42:26 PM »
Hello

I am about to replace the pickups in my 69 Thinline Tele. I have decided on a set of blackguards but cannot decide between the flat or stagger sets.

I would be most grateful if anyone could advise me on how the two sets differ tonally.

Hi

Can't tell about the 55 stagger, sorry. The F50s bridge is very raw, more powerful I thought it would be, typical TeleTwang(tm) but without the icepick, and "fattens" well when rolling of the tone. The neck is marvelous, not muddy at all, very woody and fluid - really has something of a strat, but still sounds like a Tele. Middle position has this nice quacks that's perfect for funky riffs. Overall, very very nice, raw yet still warm clean tones. They also love overdrive, from light bluesy breakup to full AC/DC crunch, and even - to my surprise - give pretty good results with heavier distortions.
 
Oh, and the first position (both pups, series) on the 4way switch is really great, gives kind of a humbucker's fatness and feel without loosing single-coils dynamic and definition.

To make a long story short, if you go for rockabilly, blues, garage, classic rock, early hard rock tones etc and you like a raw, twangy, punchy, breathing Tele, you'll love these pups.

FWIW, Roy Fullton's demo (cf Ratrod's answer) is well representative of what you can expect from them IMHO - too bad they don't make me as a good a guitar player  :?
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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 03:39:22 PM »
Thanks for the quick and useful replies. I decided on the Flat 50 and am looking forward to installing them soon as they arrive. If they sound half as good as the reviews suggest i shall be more than happy.

Tom

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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 07:43:46 PM »
I suspect you'll be happy :lol:

I'm one of the happy users of the BG Flat 50s (two sets!) - it sounds like everyone who gets them loves them.

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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 08:18:05 PM »
Thanks for the quick and useful replies. I decided on the Flat 50 and am looking forward to installing them soon as they arrive. If they sound half as good as the reviews suggest i shall be more than happy.

Well... Now I just have to hope you'll like them  :?

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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 08:37:30 PM »
He'll love 'em :lol:
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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2010, 04:44:51 PM »
Thanks everyone, I'll let you know how i get on when they arrive.

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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010, 07:37:58 PM »
Thanks everyone, I'll let you know how i get on when they arrive.

Yes please - I feel a bit responsible now  :?
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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 05:57:57 PM »
Installed my Blackguard Flat 50s today. Seriously happy!!! Been playing for several hours now and absolutely loving the sounds I'm getting. I was expecting good things as I already have a set of Mules in my 335 copy but these have just blown me away. Completely transformed the guitar, really brought it to life. If I was to describe the sound in one word it would just be: "Right".  As in, exactly as the guitar should sound and I always wanted it to sound.

Thanks to everyone who advised, much appreciated.

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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 06:24:42 PM »
Installed my Blackguard Flat 50s today. Seriously happy!!!

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Been playing for several hours now and absolutely loving the sounds I'm getting. I was expecting good things as I already have a set of Mules in my 335 copy but these have just blown me away. Completely transformed the guitar, really brought it to life. If I was to describe the sound in one word it would just be: "Right".  As in, exactly as the guitar should sound and I always wanted it to sound.

Yeps, these little pups really rock  :twisted:

Glad to know you love them, and thanks for the report. Oh, and yes: it took me some time fiddling with the height adjustement - specially on the neck - to find the SweetSpot(tm). Or should I say "my" sweet spot, since I did found more than one interesting setting while proceeding.

Enjoy, and welcome the the club  :lol:
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Re: Blackguard Flat 50 or Stagger 55?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2010, 02:47:42 PM »
Nice one.

I was almost sure that they'd have the same effect on you as they have on the rest of us.

Sounds like they have :D
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