Painkiller or Cold Sweat for my rig/style?

[JakeAC5253]

BUT, I do own an ENGL Blackmore (based on the ENGL Savage), and I use it with Celestion Vintage 30's (ENGL's own cab). I love it, so don't rule the V30's out. There are cabs and then there are other cabs; they have different frequency responses and sound different. I've tried my ENGL briefly with a MESA rectifier cabinet too (V30's), and it also sounded good, although different.

-Zaned

That is awesome.  Since the ENGL cab is front loaded and the Mesa cab is rear loaded I would assume that the ENGL cab has more widespread projection while the Mesa cab has more resonance.  Also since the Mesa is oversized and heavy as hell I would assume that it had deeper and tighter bass response right?  What was the actual difference like to your ears?

[Alex]

Awesome, I'll look into the Warpig then, seems to be the general consensus.

THREADJACK!

I just had an awesome idea.  Get a baritone scale 6 string... Mahogany arch top body, maple neck and it's 27" scale, so it'll have a deeper tonality.  I've been chasing a baritone scale 7 for a while, but I think a 6 is a better idea for me personally.  This just seems like much more guitar than what I've got going on now and I am thinking I will save my money and put some BKP's in that instead.  Seems much more worthy of the investment.

http://www.rondomusic.com/product2857.html

What do you think?  What's a good set for that guitar?  (I haven't given up on your older advice, and thanks for hanging in there everyone, the advice is greatly appreciated)

I have such a guitar (27" scale, mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, an LTD baritone). I use a Holy Diver there in the bridge. I'm happy with it, but the original guitar had a Seymour JB which isnt that different.
I heard the Black Dog works great in Baritones as well, i heard some samples from a board member here which I liked. But I bought my baritone mainly because I loved Mike Amott's tone and wanted a similar tone, so I'm sticking with the Holy Diver.

[JakeAC5253]

Awesome, I'll look into the Warpig then, seems to be the general consensus.

THREADJACK!

I just had an awesome idea.  Get a baritone scale 6 string... Mahogany arch top body, maple neck and it's 27" scale, so it'll have a deeper tonality.  I've been chasing a baritone scale 7 for a while, but I think a 6 is a better idea for me personally.  This just seems like much more guitar than what I've got going on now and I am thinking I will save my money and put some BKP's in that instead.  Seems much more worthy of the investment.

http://www.rondomusic.com/product2857.html

What do you think?  What's a good set for that guitar?  (I haven't given up on your older advice, and thanks for hanging in there everyone, the advice is greatly appreciated)

I have such a guitar (27" scale, mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, an LTD baritone). I use a Holy Diver there in the bridge. I'm happy with it, but the original guitar had a Seymour JB which isnt that different.
I heard the Black Dog works great in Baritones as well, i heard some samples from a board member here which I liked. But I bought my baritone mainly because I loved Mike Amott's tone and wanted a similar tone, so I'm sticking with the Holy Diver.

Mike Amott of Arch Enemy uses a baritone?  Maybe there is one that is discontinued or one that I am missing or something.  I know his newest sigs from the Dean line are 24.75".  I'm curious what artists use baritone guitars other than Nevermore, I'm familiar with their baritone sound but I would like to hear some different artists doing the baritone gig.  Even though Nevermore isn't true Baritone, Jeff Loomis uses a 26.5" hah, this conversation sounds so nerdy.

Anyway, what I was thinking about installation.  The guitar that I linked to that I'm thinking of getting, how easy is installation going to be here?  Will I need to buy any brackets or anything to install the warpigs?  Short legs or long legs?  I am thinking long legs because it is a carved top?  Soldering and wiring is not an issue, I am experienced with all of that, just wondering about dimensions and stuff.

I'd still love to hear from Zaned about the different cabs with the ENGL Blackmore!

[Zaned]

BUT, I do own an ENGL Blackmore (based on the ENGL Savage), and I use it with Celestion Vintage 30's (ENGL's own cab). I love it, so don't rule the V30's out. There are cabs and then there are other cabs; they have different frequency responses and sound different. I've tried my ENGL briefly with a MESA rectifier cabinet too (V30's), and it also sounded good, although different.

-Zaned

That is awesome.  Since the ENGL cab is front loaded and the Mesa cab is rear loaded I would assume that the ENGL cab has more widespread projection while the Mesa cab has more resonance.  Also since the Mesa is oversized and heavy as hell I would assume that it had deeper and tighter bass response right?  What was the actual difference like to your ears?

I didn't have the ENGL cab then and I only used the Mesa for one practise ;) They're both 2x12 cabs. My view is that the ENGL has a rawer sound in the midrange, and the bottom felt different. Maybe more bottom on the Mesa. Anyway, I would have to listen to them side by side, to really give some details.

-Zaned

[JakeAC5253]

What if I wanted a new set for my other guitar as well.  It's a Jackson RR3 V shaped guitar with Alder body and floyd rose.  Would I go with matched Warpigs set as well?  Is the C-Pig neck pickup any good or should I get a different neck pickup?  I'm just worried that it would sound softer or weaker than the Pig in the bridge.  Out of balance, you know, also I'd like it if they sounded good in the middle position when blended.  I use the neck position for cleans mainly.

Thanks.

[Madsakre]

A C-pig for that one as well :P And i dont really know about the neck pickup version. But im more after a single coil'ish neck pickup if it should be.