I thought this was a pretty fair point:
On the ring front, my GF said that the engagement ring should be at least the same value as the most expensive guitar that I have bought
They're both "luxuries", not necessities, but if you can afford the guitar you can afford the ring.*
(* Twinfan excepted - good job he's already married! :P )
Ha ha! :lol:
My wife's engagement ring was around one month's net salary to me at the time, and way more expensive than any guitar I owned at that point. I guess I fit all the 'rules'?!
To my mind the ring doesn't have to cost the earth, but the lady will be showing it off to all her friends and family. I guess that means it needs to be the best you can afford. A £20 cheapie from Argos is probably taking the p1ss, but if someone cuts out beer/fags for a bit (or sells a guitar etc) than that commitment won't go unnoticed by the recipient.
As someone said earlier, keeping your other half happy makes for a good life :D