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Slartibartfarst42

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Pickups for PRS
« on: September 25, 2011, 09:17:20 AM »
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PRS SE Custom 24. Mahogany body and set neck with maple cap and rosewood fingerboard.

It's by no means certain that I will change the stock items (HFS and VB) as I do like them a lot but I wouldn't mind something that is a bit more articulate without being really tight and has the power to live with my other guitar so I don't have a great fall away in power when I switch between guitars. My other guitar is a Jackson Soloist with HD and Trilogy Suites. The bridge pickup should give a really good distortion that is crisp and articulate. It should be thick and maintain the Les Paul feel this guitar has in comparison to the Jackson. The neck pickup should be articulate, smooth and creamy. Both pickups should be warm and give great distorted leads as well as lovely warm cleans. I tend to use the Jackson more for Metal-style songs whereas this needs to be a lot more versatile as I'll use it for everything from clean-style pop to Rock/Metal.

I'm really not sure where to start on this one. I would have guessed that they should be Alnico but the HFS is really good and is Ceramic. At the moment I'm thinking a set of Emeralds would be good and so would an Abraxas set. If I moved into a contemporary pickup, for the bridge at least, I have no idea what would work or what neck pup would go with it. It would need to play Gary Moore style Blues for sure as I love his tone and style above all others, though I do tend to play his material with more gain, while remaining versatile enough to do everything else. Any thoughts?
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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 10:40:03 AM »
The Emeralds will do this, but I would personal be tempted to throw some Mules in them, maybe with an AV-bridge (which is close to a RiffRaff).
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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 11:08:00 AM »
Mules or Riff Raffs will sound tight but articulate.

What about VHIIs?  I think they'd be great!

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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 11:31:32 AM »
Here are RiffRaffs in a RW neck McCarty for reference.

If I had the choice now, I might get some Mules.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EogJ7ujoC0Y

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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 11:46:22 AM »
So Mules, Riff Raffs or Emeralds then. Remember I don't want them massively different to the HFS and VB pups as they do give the guitar a very Les Paul type vibe to it. If the stock pups were just a bit more articulate I honestly wouldn't bother. They're very close to what I want; they just need that little bit more in each department. They're really good but not great.
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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 03:05:19 PM »
Mules or Riff Raffs will sound tight but articulate.

What about VHIIs?  I think they'd be great!

I have a VHII in an ash-strat and like it very much. It sure will excel in mahogany too. It's an great oldschool-rockpickup which will clean up to a certain belllike singlecoil-quality.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2011, 11:26:24 PM by Telerocker »
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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 08:33:02 AM »
Remember I don't want them massively different to the HFS and VB pups as they do give the guitar a very Les Paul type vibe to it. If the stock pups were just a bit more articulate I honestly wouldn't bother. They're very close to what I want; they just need that little bit more in each department. They're really good but not great.

Bridge: Holydiver
Neck: Cold Sweat

It's what I use in my PRS Custom which originally had the HFS/VB combo. They will provide you with the extra articulation you want without sacrificing too much output.

Cheers Stephan

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 08:23:42 PM »
OK, so here's where we are at the moment:

Emerald - Could certainly do what I'm after and I love the clips.

Mules - An eternal favourite so no real surprise, though I was concerned it would be a little too vintage to replace an HFS.

Riff Raff - Seems popular and I confess it's not one I'd considered as again, I didn't think it would have the balls to replace an HFS.

VHII - I hear great things about the neck pickup but had never thought about it for the bridge.

Abraxas - Surprisingly, no support for this one and I thought it might have been a good idea.

Holydiver - I had thought of this one as well but dismissed it as I already have one in my Jackson. I suppose I could always find something different for the Jackson and transfer the Holydiver into the PRS.

I no nothing about the technical side of this so I'm probably very wrong but my feeling at the moment is that Mules, Riff Raffs and possibly VHIIs won't be hot enough to replace an HFS. The Emerald still appeals to me and I'm not ready just yet to totally discount the Abraxas. I've also been looking at the Black Dog and certain aspects like 'deep bottom-end, muscular mids, smooth highs and more output than a vintage PAF' appeal to me, as does 'designed for players that need a vintage voiced pickup with extra weight in the mid range'. However, the description of 'An aggressive, throaty humbucker' makes me think of the Nailbomb and I obviously had a bad experience with that. Of the contemporary humbuckers, I already like the Holydiver and I'm not averse to the idea of swapping it out of the Jackson and trying something else in there but I'm unsure if any other pickup in that range would do what I want. The Crawler may be a possibility but I've always associated that more with Strat-style guitars rather than mahogany.

It doesn't seem like I'm much further forward does it, lol.
BKP owned:

Bridge - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; A-Bomb; Holydiver; Miracle Man; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

Neck - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; Holydiver; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 11:35:07 PM »
You wrote the PRS will be used for cleans to rock/some metal. If you want also an open sounding guitar I think the range from Mules to Emeralds will serve you. DC-resistance doesn't tell all. I find my VHII not underpowered. If you want more midrange consider the Black Dogs. They're tight enough for metal. Will clean up in the best alnico way.
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Re: Pickups for PRS
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 09:27:28 AM »

Abraxas - Surprisingly, no support for this one and I thought it might have been a good idea.


They are a good idea in principle. I have a set in a swamp ash PRS-style guitar where they work really well. I just did not specifically recommend them since you said you wanted something not radically different from the HFS/VB combo, and the Abraxas will be quite different from them.  Compared to the HFS the Abraxas bridge will have less power (but still enough IMHO), less mids and more treble. You may miss the raw output and fatness of the HFS when moving to the Abraxas. Compared to the VB the Abraxas neck will have a little less power, less bass, less low mids, a lot more treble and high mids.

Another option would be the Crawlers. They would be closer to the HFS/VB, especially on the bridge pickup which is very fat sounding with strong but not over the top output but still different from the HD/CS by showing a more vintage character.

Cheers Stephan