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gjet

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Black Dog VS BurstBucker PRO's?
« on: January 14, 2012, 03:44:32 PM »
I just found the Bareknuckles site a few days ago. I have a 2005 Gretsch Firebird, - chambered body, just like this one: http://greatdaneband.com/Images/MusicalEquipment/Guitars/2005Gretsch_JetFirebird.jpg

I currently have a single TV Jones Classic Plus in the bridge.
DC Resistance = 7.79k
Inductance = 3.71 H

A week ago, a friend brought over his Gibson Standard and plugged it into my JCM 2000 DSL-100. I was floored at the output of this pickup - I believe he has a Burstbucker Pro in the bridge, which measures 8.7k. The TV Classic + pickup allows me to normally set the volume at half, gain at 3.5-4 for a "classic rock" Malcolm Young tone. With the Les Paul, I kept the volume at half, but had to lower the gain on the CRUNCH channel down to 1.5 - 2 MAX so we wouldn't go deaf.

I've considered routing out my Gretsch's bridge cavity to accommodate a Bareknuckles Black Dog, although I'm wavering; doing this is considered sacrilege among Gretsch players. As much as I love the TV Jones Classic Plus, it doesn't have the same punch and GRRR, mid-range honk as the BD. As some of you probably know, Gretsch styled pickups like the TV Jones series, are very "Gretsch" sounding. Jangly, treble, bright are good words to describe the tone - which I love.

But...now all of a sudden, I'm itching for a Black Dog - that mid-range absolutely KILLS. My question is, if we're comparing the output of a BB PRO to the BD, is there a huge difference in perceived output, volume, tone, bite etc, going from the BB PRO'S 8.7K, to the BD'S 9.4K? I just need more midrange bite. My Gretsch is naturally bright, and I'm thinking this BD might be the ticket to getting a much firmer, meaner tone - AC/DC basically. But I'm also worried about it being noisy, feedback etc, since the Gretsch isn't completely solid, but chambered. Any ideas?
— I'm assuming the BD's are wax potted correct?

Thanks.

ericsabbath

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Re: Black Dog VS BurstBucker PRO's?
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2012, 08:49:41 PM »
Eric, thanks. Well, I listened to most of the "classic rock" clips, but I found that the riff raff was a bit looser, brighter sounding, or blingy, compared to the black dog.

I really like that mid range honk of the Black Dog, I wish they hadn't downtuned when they recorded the clips. I'd prefer to hear them in standard tuning.

My friend's BB PRO had that aggressive mid-range in spades, but the top end was a bit much. Mind you, his strings were very close to the top of the bridge pickup. He'd probably have to lower it a bit.

So, the BD isn't hotter than the BB PRO, but similar in output, same kind of bite? Thanks.



yeah the riff raff is "blinger", but not looser
the black dog is much looser on the low end and picking response
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