Baritone BKP Suggestions

[ESPImperium]

I haven't posted here in a good while, read a bit on and off. But since my last popper post ive got a good few guitars, and started to come back to BKP after flirtations ill say.

Cut to the chase, im after a bridge pickup for my PRS SE Mushok Baritone. I have tried EMGs in it but the new solderless thing keeps shorting somewhere, passives aren't shorting out weirdly enough. I have a Miracle man in my Les Paul and that is my bag, love it to bits, and a Nailbomb in my ESP LTD Eclipse Deluxe that i like but am not totally happy with it (Posibly changing it to a Miracle man soon) i also have a Painkiller in mothballs so to speak.

Im after a pickup that is sorta like a EMG 85 in a sort of way, but in the searches ive done people say a Black Dog. Im not sure as i want a pickup that is versitile as i can go from one end of the music spectrum to another quickly. Im not sure if i should go hot or for a more classic output but not vintage output.

If its any help i do play mainly metal, need a good clean sound, even if it isn't as great as a Burstbucker #2, 59 or Jazz and the 36th Anniversary in the neck of my Eclipse it has to be useable. Also i use a Maxon OD808 and Keeley SD-1 as mu boosts and a Blackstar HT-1R head and a Egnater Tweaker 15W head into a Bogner 1X12 cab. I plan on a Mini Recto sometime as well.

I know that BKP can custom build something like maybes a Alnico II or IV Miracle Man that may be slightly less powerful than a stock one, or a Ceramic Black Dog.

Thanks in advance.

[CanadianMetalhead]

Personally when you said EMG 85 tone with a good clean sound that said to me a Alnico warpig. The 2 are very much alike at the bridge position aside from EMG's sounding dead and lifeless and the AWP sounding organic and has great cleans.

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15397.0

There should be a EMG 85 and a Alnico warpig clip in that so you can compare them.

If the output is too much you can always adjust the height. That's what i usually do.

Anyways have a good one :P Hope it helps.

[Alex]

I have a baritone with a Miracle Man. I like the sound, but it does have the problem that Tim has pointed out with extended scale and high output humbuckers, i.e. an overemphasis on bass and treble end due to the long scale. At the moment I am happy with the sound, but I could imagine that if I played this in a band at much higher volumes and in a much denser mix I'd pretty soon go for the Black Dog.

The Black Dog is what I'd recommend. It's a great pickup and my BKP favorite.

I know that BKP can custom build something like maybes a Alnico II or IV Miracle Man that may be slightly less powerful than a stock one, or a Ceramic Black Dog.

No, I'm pretty sure they have never done such tings and they certainly won't.

If its any help i do play mainly metal, need a good clean sound, even if it isn't as great as a Burstbucker #2, 59 or Jazz and the 36th Anniversary in the neck of my Eclipse it has to be useable. Also i use a Maxon OD808 and Keeley SD-1 as mu boosts and a Blackstar HT-1R head and a Egnater Tweaker 15W head into a Bogner 1X12 cab. I plan on a Mini Recto sometime as well.

The Black Dog should do this style fine (plus the heavy baritone strings help with the output level anyway). The one thing I don't like is that you are, in a way, trying to compensate for the lack of low end tightness of the amp through pickups and boosters. For a baritone you really need a big sized power amp - this is where a 100Watt amp is still preferable to a 15 or 25Watt one.

[Toe-Knee]

I have a baritone with a Miracle Man. I like the sound, but it does have the problem that Tim has pointed out with extended scale and high output humbuckers, i.e. an overemphasis on bass and treble end due to the long scale. At the moment I am happy with the sound, but I could imagine that if I played this in a band at much higher volumes and in a much denser mix I'd pretty soon go for the Black Dog.

The Black Dog is what I'd recommend. It's a great pickup and my BKP favorite.

I know that BKP can custom build something like maybes a Alnico II or IV Miracle Man that may be slightly less powerful than a stock one, or a Ceramic Black Dog.

No, I'm pretty sure they have never done such tings and they certainly won't.

If its any help i do play mainly metal, need a good clean sound, even if it isn't as great as a Burstbucker #2, 59 or Jazz and the 36th Anniversary in the neck of my Eclipse it has to be useable. Also i use a Maxon OD808 and Keeley SD-1 as mu boosts and a Blackstar HT-1R head and a Egnater Tweaker 15W head into a Bogner 1X12 cab. I plan on a Mini Recto sometime as well.

The Black Dog should do this style fine (plus the heavy baritone strings help with the output level anyway). The one thing I don't like is that you are, in a way, trying to compensate for the lack of low end tightness of the amp through pickups and boosters. For a baritone you really need a big sized power amp - this is where a 100Watt amp is still preferable to a 15 or 25Watt one.

Actually BKP used to do pretty much anything that the customer wanted. That specific combination may not have been done but at one time they were a lot more flexible than they are now.

I don't really have much to add to this thread as to pickup recommendations as my go to pickups in extended scale guitars are either from other companies or the aftermath.