Best 4X12?

[JacksonRR]

Mark does your Uberkab have the polyester batting inside?

[dave_mc]

i've only tried their badger 2x12, but i really like my roadkill cab.

though the prices on loaded ones have gone up, unfortunately.

[Madsakre]

Mesa Rectumfrier Oversized V30. Best cab in existence. No matter what you say, its still the best.
English units, baltic birch. Rock Solid. Decent wheels(!!!!)

[hunter]

I have owned a few cabs, including a H&K Triamp Custom cab as well as a Bogner 4x12, and a few others.

Definitely the box has a huge impact on the sound quality, not just the speakers.

And hands down, best cab I have ever played through or owned is my 1973 Marshall straight cab with original greenbacks. This is followed very closely by my friend's 1971 slant Marshall with G12H bass speakers. That one is darker, but as well amazing sounding.

Get an old one with original speakers, they are something completely different, trust me.

[JDC]

According to somewhere on the internet Mills Acoustics do the best 4x12 as it has a magic baffle with holes in it that kills standing waves and pixies (or something like that)

Never tried one but I found a thread on a decent forum of people who've owned lots of cabs and the order they ranked them in, basically it went Mills > Bogner uberkab > everything else

+1 for Zilla

[MDV]

Mark does your Uberkab have the polyester batting inside?

Yeah, its got some light damping on the back panel.

[JacksonRR]

Mark does your Uberkab have the polyester batting inside?

Yeah, its got some light damping on the back panel.

Have you tried it with the damping removed? How thick would you say that material is? Do you feel the panels resonate more or less than other cabs with similar dimensions?

[MDV]

Really I dont expect its doing anything to low end anyway. Its too light. You know what happens to the standing modes in a room when you put foam on the walls. Nothing. Same logic. Best I can figure it smooths the top end; its not inconceivable that reflections of high end from the back of the cab that are out of phase with the speakers interfere with the speakers vibration and screw up high end.

I havent stuck my hand on the side of any cab while playing, but from apparent 'woody, punchy, deep cab thunk' the Uber is quite a ways ahead of others of similar dimensions (mesa and engl mainly; diezels are comparable, though not quite as good imo, and it makes 1960s sound like toys).

[JacksonRR]

Ah, well I just got home with some appropriate screws and lumber to do some bracing in my cab. Don't really have any issues with it, but my stupid head always thinks an improvement could be made. Been on the warpath for knowledge on cab construction lately. I'd like to try a much stiffer configuration. Had thought about coating the inside with fiberglass mat and epoxy, but I'm going to go ahead and try nice cheap(and easily reversible) wood bracing. Perhaps I should go to the fabric store after I try this and get some cheap batting just to see prove/disprove the theory about the speakers behaving as though they were in a larger box.

Might do a separate thread with pics just so my experiment can be of use to others.

[Dmoney]

I remember reading a theory a while ago about the uber cab and using that cladding on the inside... It had something to do with creating an artificial sense of depth for the speakers, rather than doing anything with standing waves and such. I can't remember really.

PA speakers and some bass cabs can be full of rockwool or whatever, that is fairly standard right? So if it's not doing anything with standing modes in a guitar cab, it won't in any other cab... so why is it used? I'd like to know.

[Toe-Knee]

I remember reading a theory a while ago about the uber cab and using that cladding on the inside... It had something to do with creating an artificial sense of depth for the speakers, rather than doing anything with standing waves and such. I can't remember really.

PA speakers and some bass cabs can be full of rockwool or whatever, that is fairly standard right? So if it's not doing anything with standing modes in a guitar cab, it won't in any other cab... so why is it used? I'd like to know.

i think it could be to make it more of a dead space?

I know its used in iso cabs for this reason other than the obvious isolation

[JacksonRR]

The sound waves have to fight through the material, bounce off of the cab wall and then fight through the material again so it's takes longer(how much longer? idfk) and simulates a larger box.

[WeAreNotGentlemen]

I own an Avatar 2x12. (I'm from the States and it's an American company so I don't know if it's a common name in the UK, or if the OP is from the UK.) And it's extremely well built and went for roughly $450 with shipping. You can get a wide variety of speakers from Celestion or Eminence and you can get them mixed. Mixed in the way that I have one V30 and one G12H30 in mine. 4x12's go for about $600 with shipping. They're made very well and sound great. I'd also back Zilla as they're flat out amazing.

[Loomer]

Mesa Rectumfrier Oversized V30. Best cab in existence. No matter what you say, its still the best.
English units, baltic birch. Rock Solid. Decent wheels(!!!!)

This..

Otherwise, for a more rock kind of thing I can't praise the Marshall 1982 cabs. I have one and I love it to bits.

[Thrull]