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Author Topic: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion  (Read 4644 times)

RosettaStoned

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Hey, Finally after much thinking and listening to clips/reviews i have ended on a Miracle Man bridge. I got a Bill Lawrence 500r in neck. I want to wire them so i can get singlecoil function on them. Im not so good at wiring/pickup electronics, but i can solder them myself. i used to buy complete ready for soldering sets, so this is a challenge to me.  So to get a single coil function on those 2 pickups, what do i need to buy? pots,splitters etc etc.

The challenge here is that my guitar is a ESP Eclipse II with 3 knobs(pots). i think i need a push/pull button to switch between singlecoil/humbucker funtion..

Someone got an idea of what i need to do here to get the best result and sound out of my pups? And what pots are recommended to use with MM and 500r to get the best sound?


THanks

RosettaStoned

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 12:39:04 PM »
here is a link of my guitar: http://www.espguitars.com/products/8618-eclipse-ii-qm-acsb?category_id=1963268-eclipse-ii

Only difference is that i got Seymour JB bridge. and bill lawrence 500r in neck. and its the JB that i am gonna swap out for the MM=)

RosettaStoned

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2014, 01:03:02 PM »
many msg!=) i dont know how to get alle 3 msg in on msg.. BUT, i just wanted to say that i want a huge sound out of my pickups. does pot resistance have somthing to say? i just dont have a clue about this.

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2014, 02:00:46 PM »
I did a custom wiring for my Eclipse II too.
The best is avoiding adding new switches. So you will need push/pull or push/push pots. (I prefer push/push.) Note that I bought mine on BKP website. They are great, but I had to enlarge the holes for the pots.

Starting from here, you can do single coil with 1 push/push pot.
If you want more, I created my custom wiring, and with 3 push/push pots you can do almost everything: coil splitting, parallel, inverting phase.
You will find a demo of the effects on this thread: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=31136.0
And the wiring diagram here:
https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=31207.0

Does your other HB have 4 wires (for coil splitting)?
Also, what do you play? What tones do you want? (Maybe I can design you a wiring that fits even more your needs...)

RosettaStoned

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 03:05:05 PM »
Thanks! i just want to get more versatility on my guitar. Since soldering is easy, it would take just a couple minutes more work to solder for singlecoil options. 

Most important is that i can use :one singlecoil in neck, whole neck HB neck, one singlecoil from neck and bridge, bot HB full, singlecoil for bridge and whole bridge HB. Ao maybe i should go for your 1 wire diagram on that page? i dont know if my JB or 500r got coilsplitting options. probably not. i dont even know what to look for.

How many ohms do my pots need? so the only thing i need to buy is a capacitator and new pots?

Skilpad

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 03:18:15 PM »
500k shall be good.
To know if you can split coils of your current HBs, just check if they have 2 or 4 wires to solder. 2 means both coils are directly connected, 4 means you can access both connectors of both coils (and thus you can split coils).

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 04:34:15 PM »
While an excellent demonstration of what can be done to a guitar, Skilpad's wiring suggestion is a really advanced one. I would not recommend this as the first wiring project. If you are really interested in this wiring I recommend seeking assistance from a pro shop. 

The combinations you requested can be achieved with a single push-pull (or push-push) pot which has a DPDT-switch (6 contacts). One position of the knob would give you the humbucker tones, the other the single coil tones. There should be a schematic for such a wiring on the BKP website.

The only downside could be stage ergonomics - say if you want both pickups split for rhythm and want to switch to the full bridge humbucker for lead you would have to operate two switching elements. If this bothers you then a wiring with a "blower switch", i.e. one that bypasses everything and only uses the bridge pickup could be the right thing.

What are your preferred pickup selections?

Cheers Stephan


RosettaStoned

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 05:42:44 PM »
I think that im good at soldering. the huge irony here, is that i have 2 years education from electronic school. But its almost ten years ago, and im not so good at electronic parts and that kind of stuff. The theoritacally mathematics was my strong side.. So i have a soldermachine(tin-heater or what u call it=)), and i have solded a shiteload of EMG`s before. I can also read schematics. I used to use Orcad at school. So soldering and schematics arent a probelem. i just follow the schematics. But my probem is just the exact parts that i need to buy. Thats my weakness. i have no clue what i need, or where to buy. If i can buy all the stuff i need at BKP, i think i will do that if theyre are recommended.

The options i want are based on just the idea to get more versatile sounds. I dont play on a stage these days. and i dont think i am gonna play on a stage in a couple of years. Just jammin for my self at home or maybe in rehearsal some times(but not often).  I dont think i got use for a option that includes 4 single coils(2 neck,2 bridge).
I think that one coil of each humbucker,neck,both and bridge is enough.( if i can do more, that would be cool,but not necessary for me i think). I have no clue in witch order i want them, but i take suggestions=) its incrediable what humans can get used to!

 Just like fenderish singlecoil sound. They sound good at clean and with lesser distorted sound. sometimes, i use chickin`pickin`and i think that singlecoil would be good for this.  My ESP is my "working" guitar. Sp a lot of option while i am playing home and getting new ideas would be killer.

Any suggestions of parts that i need to buy from BKP? im gonna make that order now.

Preciate the help=)

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Re: Tips about combining 500r and a Miracle Man to single coil funtion
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2014, 11:04:22 PM »
Congrat me as a BKP owner guys!=) i got some help with soldering to singe coil/tap function thing when the pickup arrives. a forummember from my country got just the same pup and have the same thing i want, so i would pay him to get it done=).. Then i supoort a forummember to!=)  Couldnt be more happy. Just hoping that the BKP is what expected=)