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Drac

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Lord of the (pickup) Rings
« on: June 24, 2005, 10:16:40 AM »
This might seem obvious to some, but I run into this on almost a daily basis at my shop-not that I don't need the work, but...
-Pickup Mounting Rings-
 Some manufacturers include A ring with the pickup when you buy it-many times, it is more appropriate to plunder the screws & springs & toss it directly in a boneyard of spare parts, because  the only thing that matters is the situation carved in wood -Body shape(carved or flat),neck angle relevant to the bridge, pickup position, and it's relationship to string height-in the axe on the slab before you.
-If you use single coils, then it's mainly the overall pickup height, & perhaps individual pole positions, if allowed by the design that you can use to tune the output signal by-
(we will not concern ourselves with guts in this tirade...pots,caps,jacks, etc. ...)
-But if you use Humbuckers,consider that you should  be  concerned with both coils  being parallel to the strings to get  all that bang you dropped yer bucks on.- Even in the simplest set up, say single bridge humbucker, single volume control, straight out the catflap, you are combining the signal of both coils to achieve the most powerful true HB sound-This is doubly true in a 4 wire harness,  series/parallel switches , or shunted coils, phasing options...
-Point is, some rings are flat, some are slanted in profile, some are specific to arch tops, some to be bolted directly to the body way down in the hole...
The ring should suit the guitar body at the bottom, fitting snugly, and sealing off the gaping crevice around the pickup itself -blood, beer, and organic excretions will find their way in there anyway ,no matter what- in a short time, one could  collect enough DNA to clone oneself, or perhaps be fingered for crimes, so clean that vacuum out !
Most pickups & rings use a two-screw mounting arrangement-this is fine enough, but means that your ring has to match yer axe!-you can adjust for height, but not the relative parallel of both coils- it may be neccesary to use foam, or a piece of wood to encourage the parallel, and then you have to fuss in your adjustments for height...mess with the size/shape of your "persuader" underneath,take the pickup in and out, etc.
-For the most part, once the pickup is installed properly and appropriate to the style of the wretch that will bash it to smithereens,  one sets it, forgets it, and life goes on until something breaks, or changes...
-I like the 3-screw arrangement- Carvin uses this- with one screw on one side, and two on the other- this allows one to set the height, and the relative angle of both coils to the strings with considerably less muss...(& fuss)
Whatever the case, consider the axe, the parts included, and whatever else you have to buy,make,beg,borrow,or steal to  do it right the first time, and get back to shredding...Cheers me bruthers!-Dracjavascript:emoticon('PDT_045')
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2005, 11:19:12 AM »
I was thikning about this when I installed my pickup. I'm still not sure wether I've got the pickup ring on the right way or not as the pickup looks like its kinda at an angle, the side without the screws looks to be pointed up more. Maybe I should change it around? I dunno..

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Make a change...
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2005, 11:58:01 AM »
Is that the guitar in your avatar yer  thinking about?- I can't tell if it's carved on top or not- regardless, get the cover of the pickup parallel to the strings-
-My reccomendation, if you choose to accept it: drill out the holes,  and incorporate the 3-screw adjustable angle scenario- this is the best way, because then you can change pickups, and use pickup number 1 in any other guitar with a minimum of set up fuss...
-you can encourage the parallel with shims between the pickup and ring ( cheating and risking damaging the pickups fragile wiring,  ie., don't do this!), -or remove the whole pickup and use a wood, or foam block to push the pickup into position  -again, be careful!- and set the height 1st...
- Another  tip is to bend the pickups ears ( sorry Tim!) to make the angle...
not  reccomended
-or to  fasten  new metal blocks to the pickups ears, that are drilled and tapped , that themselves create the angle-time consuming, and permanent...
Good luck-You will be glad you did this, methinx...Drac
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2005, 01:03:02 PM »
Yeah its the guitar in my avatar, it does have a rounded top. I dont really get what you mean about drilling the holes? I might just try spinning the pickup surround to see if that does anything to it's angle

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Parallel coils
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2005, 02:57:18 PM »
-Carved top, ok...
 You must be using the stock pickup ring that came with your paul, right?
 It's already shaped to hug that body curve-
-if not, I recommend getting one,  for whatever position, bridge or neck, we're dealing with here...this might solve your problems already...
- if not, the quick fix is to shim the pickup, from underneath the ring, between the high coil side, and the closest top/bottom  wall of the cavity ( with foam rubber-(the foam in the box yer BK came in is handy for this), or a piece of wood, but bear in mind that you want to  be able to adjust the height after coaxing the parallel of the coils- the foam is better.-
-hope this makes a differnce you can see, and hear...-Drac
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2005, 09:36:59 PM »
hm it looks like it is mounted the right way..weird :?