Author Topic: Have a listen to this.... (Read 12874 times)

Sifu Ben · « **Reply #30 on:** August 24, 2006, 11:01:14 AM »

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Bare Knuckle should describe pickup names in a much better way
The title 'Nail Bomb' for example says nothing of the sound of the pickup
a major problem in my view for prospective buyers.

Because Custom 5 and Tonezone are so descriptive :roll:
Honestly, the names would be worth buying them for alone!!
If his musical knowledge is so limited that he can't understand what the names imply, one must question his opinion.
Listening to the music on the site his real problem is that he's a fairly noisy player, doesn't fret cleanly enough and doesn't mute enough when he's tapping. I think this explains his bizarre description of "uncontollable feedback". As someone recently said, a good pickup will highlight the flaws in a weak player.

Philly Q · « **Reply #31 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:35:23 PM »

I've read that Tony McKenzie review of the Cold Sweats before, when I first started finding out about BKPs. His comments about them being too bright made me more interested, because personally I find most bridge humbuckers don't have enough top end for my liking.

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Bare Knuckle should describe pickup names in a much better way. The title 'Nail Bomb' for example says nothing of the sound of the pickup a major problem in my view for prospective buyers.

That really is a bizarre comment - the names of the pickups give you an instant idea of what they sound like! Of course I say that as someone who's been listening to rock/metal for nearly 30 years; I suppose if I was a jazz cat or a 16 year old indie fan the names wouldn't mean much - but neither do the names of anyone else's pickups (EMG81? Custom Custom? Steve's Special? FRED?).

What the names don't tell you is everything the pickup is capable of - Nailbomb makes you think of Sepultura/Fudge Tunnel but you have to do more research to find that it's also a versatile lead pickup. And it's impossible to come up with a name that'll tell you exactly how it'll sound in your guitar with you playing it. I don't imagine for a moment that if I bought an Emerald I'd instantly sound like Brian Robertson on "Live and Dangerous" - but the name does give a very good idea of what the pickup was designed to do.

tommyfobia · « **Reply #32 on:** August 24, 2006, 02:11:23 PM »

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Welcome to the forum Sir, I think this is our first encounter :)

I believe it is! I've lurked on here for a while and thought it was about time to make a few posts myself!

Thanks for the welcome mate!

:D

gingataff · « **Reply #33 on:** August 24, 2006, 03:23:13 PM »

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Bare Knuckle should describe pickup names in a much better way
The title 'Nail Bomb' for example says nothing of the sound of the pickup
a major problem in my view for prospective buyers.

Because of course the JB sounds so exactly like Jeff Beck!

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I liked the way that BNP changed the units - not unique, but really
good customer service.

Neo-Nazi pickups?

dave_mc · « **Reply #34 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:35:44 PM »

^ :lol:

Searcher · « **Reply #35 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:55:43 PM »

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True. Here in Canada I can get a set of Seymour Duncan or DiMarzio pickups for $120 USD, but BKPs cost me $360 USD--three times the price! You have to be rich or really dedicated to go for BKPs here.

That may be the case but the SD or DiMarzio isnt hand made, and isn't tweaked to be closer to what you really desire.

As somebody mentioned (sorry I forgot) a single standard SD humbucker is 80 UKP here which translates to $167.99 Canadian (151 USD).

Rob...

Oh, I wasn't arguing about the quality difference. I prefer BKPs to anything else I've heard so far. But the point about the price still stands. For you guys it's a no-brainer since you're paying a similar price regardless of which pickups you choose, but over in North America we can get the local stuff far, far cheaper.

deg0ey · « **Reply #36 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:58:49 PM »

I can see where he's coming from with the Nailbomb not being clear about how it sounds - as it wouldn't make me think of Sepultura (as I never really listened to them and don't see how the name relates) but it IS a helluva lot clearer than other pickup names...When you hear "Nailbomb", what's the first thing you think of? - Bomb = Explosion = Very Loud = Not Jazz :drink:

Philly Q · « **Reply #37 on:** August 24, 2006, 11:59:29 PM »

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I can see where he's coming from with the Nailbomb not being clear about how it sounds - as it wouldn't make me think of Sepultura (as I never really listened to them and don't see how the name relates)

Nailbomb was a mid-90s side project featuring Max Cavalera of Sepultura and Alex Newport of Fudge Tunnel. I think they only did one studio and one live album.

Fubar · « **Reply #38 on:** August 25, 2006, 12:08:19 AM »

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Nailbomb was a mid-90s side project featuring Max Cavalera of Sepultura and Alex Newport of Fudge Tunnel. I think they only did one studio and one live album.

...and damn fine they both were, was kind of industrial and had dino cazares guesting on a coupla tracks :D

jt · « **Reply #39 on:** August 25, 2006, 01:25:40 AM »

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In that review, he says "The Pickup's I have tried are too toppy for my liking" .. why wouldnt you just turn down the treble on your amp a bit?

:D That`s exactly what i was thinking !!

I own a set of Cold Sweats & i have to say i don`t find them overly "Bright" or "Trebly" but actually really well balanced. But this guy says his using a Wah well that`ll make everything sound more "Topy" As for the rest of `em why are you bothering arguing just think you`ve got a far far better sound than they have It`s there lose not yours.

:D 8)

dave_mc · « **Reply #40 on:** August 25, 2006, 01:36:37 PM »

am I the only one who thought "why don't you just stop using wah?" i mean, that's gonna add more treble than anything, especially if he's using it for tapping, in the (as I expect) toe-down position...

Muso · « **Reply #41 on:** August 25, 2006, 02:48:56 PM »

Rant starts....

I hate getting involved with slamming people or internet debating (arguing) but reading that Tom guys review and then listening to his playing I had to say something.
First off it sounds like he wants the moon on a stick, he doesn't seem impressed with the outstanding customer service he had gotten. I mean talking to the pickup designer and being reccomended who then kindly exchanges thus said pickup for another reccomendation? Where do these people come from?
This guy has been playing a band for 8 years and played for I dunno how much his skill is terrible! and he seems to have an ego WTF?!?!
Also I don't really see how you can hear the tone of a pickup when you have chorus, flanger, reverb and wah effects!
He mentions tops, does he even know anything about frequency, its like theres controls on an amp usually call treble u can turn it down. Also F*ck knows what EQ settings this Effects Monster has on his rig.

Rant ends!

Seriousley I agree with that guy who mentioned the true sound you get out of a Bare Knuckle pickup, it doesn't hide sloppy playing, every note is clear.

Kilby · « **Reply #42 on:** August 25, 2006, 02:52:08 PM »

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am I the only one who thought "why don't you just stop using wah?" i mean, that's gonna add more treble than anything, especially if he's using it for tapping, in the (as I expect) toe-down position...

Perhaps it's an ego thing (looking at the site).

I actually don't meant to critisise anybody but there is the feeling that if it dosn't come out of the box exactly the way he want's then it's viewed as being faulty (even down to presets on multi fx boxes). His web site is also a bit duff with that huge download on the main page.

I as usual am prepared to be corrected though and would would like to hear his opinion of a pickup which is more suited to his requirements, as he is obviously very interested in tone and quality equipment (even if he does like Boss effects).

Rob...

JJretroTONEGOD · « **Reply #43 on:** August 25, 2006, 04:23:12 PM »

the guy who posted this. His EGO is useless cos he can't back up his points logically as there is now so much opposition, and also EGO is in this case when someone is very openly insecure and hates himself. The worse thing about EGO is that it destroys the inner soul in a very negative way, why do these people have so much to prove??? what pushed them over the line in the first place??? Dont say something unless it's the truth! this guy is trying to brain wash us into beliving his bullshitee, and it is bullshitee! bet you he'll reply to this having yet another anger fit ; D If I was him I wouldnt have posted this forum as it's done him no favours at all. can we all agree on this?

chrisola · « **Reply #44 on:** August 25, 2006, 07:38:17 PM »

if he just TURNS THE TREBLE DOWN then it would make a difference lol

Reminds me of a thread on HC recently where some guy says 'i use single coils through 11 effects pedals into my amp, at home its fine, should there be noise\feedback when i play it loud at a gig?'

My Nailbombs are quite bright, but they are in a bolt on maple\swamp ash floyd guitar! Treble controls for the win 8)