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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2007, 09:59:40 PM »
Yeah well obviously the Mules do sound better (well to me they do).. the J90C sounds flatter and with less harmonics/richness. Cant really explain it but I'll try to do a comparison clip tomorrow, although my mic'ing situation still isnt amazing (SM57 straight into cheap dell soundcard).


Anyway for the time being I'm gonna try my SD Custom Custom which I have in my strat copy in the Charvel, as its made for brighter guitars apparently, and my strat copy is actually a pretty dark/dull guitar unplugged. Just need some extra 4 conductor wire as the SD wire is too short to reach the pots in the Charvel.

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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2007, 10:23:06 PM »
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Sam my lil impetuous friend, are you STILL not got 'amp satisfaction'? Sheesh.
Whattaya doin'?
Ya got an Engl and a EQ, whats NOT to like?

And, I am not digging the Rivera most the time so NAH :P





















Cos, it HAS to be cranked to really GRIND, and @ 50w thats hard (as ya know with your 'ooh they r so squidgy' conquest eons ago).
The Mesa is way easier to coax at lower levels.
Thus an attenuator (eek) is needed at some point.
Till then, I have a devious new GAS plan that shall be completed, esp. due to my Dual Country/Dual Voltage woes :)


haha i get scared whenever you have any sort of new plan...

 :lol:

but anyway, i do have amp satisfaction lol... its just... i dunno.. the EMGs are just sliiiiiiiiightly not there... theyre almost there... but just.... its like theyre climbing a wall in one of those army exercises... but they just cant quiiite make it over the top...

but the colonel still gives them a pat on the back for trying...

kinda thing...

if you understand what im saying? lol

 :?  :lol:


i dunno...

and the MXR is too confusing in conjunction with the ENGL... i cant seem to get it where i want it to sound... with the Hughes and Kettner it was a doddle... but for some reason i can never dial in the tone i want with the ENGL... ugh!

anyway... sorry... MAJOR thread hijack...  :oops:  :oops:

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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2007, 10:33:57 PM »
Percy Veer yung Sam, percy veer.
The Engl has a great tone IMO and with the EQ, just play around and do'nt get so frustrated.
Tweaking takes time and can be a pain. Take a whole session setting it up (no playing guitar), just tweaking the settings :)

BTW, have got the EQ in the loop right?
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2007, 10:37:05 PM »
yes in the loop indeed.

and i shall try. i promise. lol.

it just takes so much patience!

dont suppose you have a photographic memory and are able to remember your screamer settings?  :lol:


on a serious note though- the mixing pot on back.... to switch between the wet/dry signal of the loop... did you utilise that much?




and tom- i was talking to Steve on here the other day, and he was saying that he much prefers lower output humbuckers (mules being one of his favourites) because they tend to be much clearer and more distinct... so maybe something similarly 'low-gain' like the mules would still be the optimum choice...?

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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2007, 10:43:11 PM »
Sam, mix the signal, wet to dry, as in how much effect is used.
And my settings help ye not less ya want 'my' tone :)
As said before, V is norm 'scooped', maybe work from there :)
Basically, mids r in da middle so gives ya an idea how to move the sliders.
But TRUST me, NO pro gets 'his' tone in seconds to start with. It takes tweaking patience, just cont. till ya get whats in ya ed :)

Failing that, sell The Engl and buy another amp to play with LOL ;)
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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2007, 10:47:49 PM »
lol!  :lol:  gawd i've had enough of gear switching... i dont wanna step into another guitar shop, or look at another review website for at LEAST a few days.  :lol:

but yer i shall take heed of your advice.

ive got the house to myself until about 6pm tomorrow night so ill give it a thorough test then, and ill TRY to be patient lol.


shall let you know how it goes!

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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2007, 10:49:38 PM »
Sam, perhaps just take the EQ out of the loop to simplify your setup a bit?

I was using my Behringer eq (although thats not as good as an mxr obviously) in the loop and got sick of tweaking - decided not to bother anymore and I've been happy since ;) Worth a go and means theres less cr@p which can affect your tone!

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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2007, 10:52:25 PM »
haha yer thats exactly what ive resorted to a lot recently.

mainly because im so impatient and generally BAD at tweaking that i just get frustrated and give up.

the annoying thing is i can sense that there are good tones in there that could compliment the ENGL... but i just cant quite get them...

i'll give it a huge mass-tweak session tomorrow and if nothing pays off then it may have to be bye-bye to mr EQ... we shall see.

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« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2007, 11:00:14 PM »
got an overdrive Sam?
Maybe PUSH the front end with that, iffin ya lookin for more tube saturation that is.
The EMG's SHOULD drive hard but a lil help never goes amiss :)

You DO have a battery in don't ya?

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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2007, 11:07:33 PM »
haha! run and hide you should! you cheeky bugger!

i may be horrifically uncultured and down-right stupid when it comes to amps and cabs.... but im intelligent enough to be able to install a simple AA battery into a..... wait....  :o ... what battery does it need?!....






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only joking! of course i have a bloody battery in it!  :lol:


and yer i have thought about an overdrive for some time now.

they are pushing it... but its just all a bit fizzy... too much treble dialled in by me i think... so then i cut the treble some... and then its too muddy.... can never get the right balance...

so did seriously consider an overdrive... to just add the clarity without having to pile on loads of treble... ?

ughhh

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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2007, 11:08:41 PM »
^lol just realised... my description makes it sound like sh*t.... lol...

im not saying its bad... im just saying i cant quiite get it where i want it.

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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2007, 11:12:11 PM »
just play around with it mate.
And iffin got NO od, ya can do worse (for alot more money) than a Digitech Bad Monkey.
Look at it this way, iffin that don't work and ya get frustrated ya can always 'Spank ya monkey' titter ;)
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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2007, 11:15:23 PM »
Sam if its too muddy when taking down treble, up the mids first. If that doesnt work cut a little bass.. oh and crankage is essential to smooth out valve amps, at least in my experience.

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« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2007, 11:17:59 PM »
:lol:  :lol:

yer nick- i saw someone else mention them on here... i'll check em out a bit later

and tom- i shall give that a go tomorrow.


ive probably done all of this at some point, but all in such a hurry i never take not of anything.

ill specifically go through everything tomorrow.

cheers guys

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« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2007, 05:45:57 PM »
geez, emg's, overdrive + engl?

what is this, gain central? you're a bad influence, nick, my man! :lol:

EDIT: also, don't discount a clean boost, that can give you a slight boost, remain transparent, and still sound good.

From what I can remember from trying in the shops, for a smoother tone, I normally put the bass and mids around 7-9, and the treble around 3-4. presence low-ish (not over 5). that's for the two higher gain channels... hopefully the two cleaner channels still sound good at that.

then just increase whichever one of those is lacking (or vice versa for whichever is too strong). Engls are pretty easy to eq, the knobs normally do what they say.

Of course, as nick says, that'll get you my tone, not yours. Handiest thing to do is to just set everything to noon, and again increase or decrease as required. Also, only work on one knob at a time, so you can hear what it's doing to the sound.

I haven't used an EQ with my engl yet, I don't really need one. My guess is though that increasing the lower mids and taming the treble a little might work wonders for it. make it sound a little more like a mesa.