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sambo

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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2007, 09:30:52 PM »
Quote from: Twinfan
Maybe I wasn't clear.  What I meant was if an amp has a great clean sound you usually make it have a great distortion sound (which may involve pedals and setting changes).  The reverse I've found to be less true but that's probably pretty obvious.



^sorry, yer your right- misinterpretation on my part- a great clean sound as you say would be the basis for a great distortion sound, but the desirability of that set-up as a whole was what i was getting at.

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anyway, +1 on that last sentance- try out all the options - single channel + pedals, multi-channel, e.t.c. e.t.c., and see what works best for you, because at the end of the day it's all personal preference (as i think this thread proves  :lol:  :oops: ).

Each way has pros/cons.

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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2007, 09:34:08 PM »
No probs Sambo - I think we're contradicting our agreement  :lol:

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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2007, 09:36:17 PM »
:lol:   :oops:

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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2007, 09:58:05 PM »
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A nice clean on a head with an effects loop for the chorus flange, with Distortion pedal though the input is the way for me to go i think...

I disagree - you stated in your first post that after "hearing how much better the other bands sounded with all valve amps over mine I want a change" but by not using a valve amp's distortion, you're no closer to getting an "all-valve" sound doing this than with your current rig.
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I don't think you should go single channel because you said you want a crystal clean.

+1 - winding down the guitar's volume to get clean is fine with a mid-gain crunch kinda sound, but doesn't really work with mega-filth - & it will always be a bit "gritty" rather than angelic-clean :)
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going from clean to metal is not something a lot of amps can do.

I disagree - there are dozens of valve amps - at just about every price range - that will do this.
Quote from: dave_mc
...but i'd prefer to sacrifice the cleans to get a better distortion. Especially if you'll be using distortion, say, 80% of the time.

+1
Quote from: ChrisMetal
I would say Distortion is more important to me, as I'm in a Hard rock/ old school thrash. It's difficult to say, we're sorta like G'N'R in my band but I like to have a sound like Megadeth from my amp.

Then take care of your "main" sound first, rather than compromising it to accommodate a clean sound.
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i prefer having most of my sound coming from the amp itself in general.

Me too - IMO a decent quality valve amp will give you better high gain sounds than sticking pedals in front of an amp's clean channel.

My 2p worth :)
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2007, 10:34:00 PM »
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A nice clean on a head with an effects loop for the chorus flange, with Distortion pedal though the input is the way for me to go i think...

I disagree - you stated in your first post that after "hearing how much better the other bands sounded with all valve amps over mine I want a change" but by not using a valve amp's distortion, you're no closer to getting an "all-valve" sound doing this than with your current rig.


There are many valve distortion pedals now - Just look at the Damage Control and the new blackstar pedals.
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2007, 10:37:04 PM »
^yes, but surely using a pedal to generate all your distortion kinda defeats the object of buying an all-tube amp for that very same purpose... ?

and also, whats the specific advantage of using a valve distortion pedal over just getting a multi-channel valve amp?

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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2007, 11:31:19 PM »
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We're not talking cabs here Dave, just amps  ;)  And I've found the opposite to be true - a great clean sound is the basis for a great distortion tone...


haha, touche. you know what i mean though. if you're buying a combo that's set up for clean, it'll probably be open-backed. Of course, i think he's after a head.  :oops:

I guess it depends on the distortion you want, too.

Quote from: Antag
+1 - winding down the guitar's volume to get clean is fine with a mid-gain crunch kinda sound, but doesn't really work with mega-filth - & it will always be a bit "gritty" rather than angelic-clean :)


depends on the amp, but yeah, it'll probably not be crystal clean.

agreed basically with most of the rest of your points, and sambo's and twinfan's.

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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2007, 08:28:22 AM »
have a amp that does both my fender prosonic....has a fender to voxish clean...and a mesaboogie sounding gain channel(but yet sure it says Fender on the front..nah can't be)
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2007, 06:33:28 PM »
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going from clean to metal is not something a lot of amps can do.

Quote from: Antag
I disagree - there are dozens of valve amps - at just about every price range - that will do this.


Sorry - I meant single channel amps   :oops: