Author Topic: RY in a Vee? (Read 2332 times)

Machek · « **on:** August 20, 2007, 10:50:45 PM »

Hi guys, after a hard 9months of saving, i finally got the money to buy my firtst set a of BKP, a calibrated set of Crawlers, to go in my Smartwood LP, and it was worth ten times the wait!!!
I'm so happy with them, it does exactly want i wanted them to do: a thick growling, low-mids charged roar, with more clarity and definition than my old 490R/498T's could ever have!! So, so far i'm pretty happy about them!!

And now my bandmate was so impressed that he's thinking about pimping his Gibbo Flying V with a BK set. The band we play in is a sort of heavy-rock/stoner rock combo, and this is the sort of things we do (look at the vid first, but if you think the sound is just too bad there's the mp3 right above it... man i whish i recorded it with this guitar and pickups!!):

http://www.myspace.com/lastpay

The question is, what should he get so that the two guitars complement each others nicely, blending together to achieve this heavy, roary, compact, in-yer-face tone but so you can also distinct the two guitars. Not stepping too much on each others toes if you know what i mean....

Anyway I thought about the RY cause, first they are in the same output-level ballpark (around 14-15k) than my crawlers, which i reckon works great for what we do; and it's kinda hi-mids focused but still pretty roary (the steve stevens demo here is just amazing in this regard) so it would complement my crawlers well....

But this is kinda of theorical of course, and i based these statements on what i read and clips i heard here more than on my own actual experience. Moreover i've always heard RY in LPs never in a Vee.... How are they like in those?

Many Thanks for the help guys

Tim · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2007, 08:23:49 AM »

I was fortunate enough to test a Vee make by a fantastic new luthier called Jo Case(www.caseguitars.com)at the London Guitar Show this year and it was loaded with Rebel Yell humbuckers-serious tone and near enough the same as Steve's demo.
Normally I always suggest Mules or even Stormy Monday humbuckers for Vees as they seem to work well translating the string vibration which can get lost with those huge wings of timber behind the bridge. However after playing Jon's Vee I'm happy to report the RYs work really well and their voicing is significantly different enough to sit really well with a Crawler set in a LP-together they'll sound enormous!

Machek · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2007, 03:38:46 PM »

Yeahh!! Thanks for the tip Tim!! (and thanks for risponding youself!)
If you say so, then it's definitely a killer combo!!
I can't wait to hear those two guitars together now!!

And thanks for the crawlers, you nailed it as usual - so it seems- they do exactly what i wanted them to do: they're awesome!

oh, by the way, the neck RY is the same than the CS neck, am i right?

Thanks for the reply. :D

ericsabbath · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2007, 06:28:37 PM »

i'd put a holy diver if it was my only BKPed guitar
it may sound a little dark as gibson Vs are naturally dark and powerful
but a RY should sound great

by the way, the band is awesome
nice riffage and soloing
sounds old school and really modern at the same time

Machek · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2007, 11:11:03 PM »

Thanks dude, you got the spirit

!!
Glad you enjoyed it.

Problem is HD and crawlers are kinda both -roughly- focused on basses/low mids, if i'm not mistaken.... and we want to have two sets of pups quite distinct to fill the frequency spectrum, without stepping on each other toes too much, but still with this kinda growl.... But again these statements are typically based on threads i have read and clips i have heard here, and i could be totally wrong of course....

Ratrod · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2007, 04:02:52 PM »

One of the cool things of the Crawler is that it deals well with lead guitarists and bassists that are too loud (and obnoxious).

You can play a Crawler at 3/4 of the volume of the others and still break through the mix.

Machek · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2007, 04:15:17 PM »

Hey thanks for the tip ratrod!!
By the way your old 'fatlip' clip in the player room was the thing that turned me into the crawlers (with Carlaz's 'Jumpgate'). Great set of clips over there, nice job.

Ratrod · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2007, 04:22:44 PM »

Thanks! Glad you like the clips. When I'm hearing them now, I think it sounds way too bass heavy and mid scooped. I use more classic settings these days (for the better, I think).

I should make some new clips when I can find the time.