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Hell Hound

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New amp day! (Koch/Framus content)
« on: September 02, 2007, 10:00:49 AM »
Hey guys,
   I've been away for a while, I had to have a social life during the summer hehe  :lol:
   So here is my new amp :


It's a Koch Studiotone, 20w class A (most likely 18w because it gots 2 EL84). It gots a tons of features for such a small head (it's like half most heads):
- 3 channels, clean with a volume, OD wich is a crunch mode with gain and volume controle and OD+ which is a 3 modes boost to the OD channel.
- 2 voicing switches (mid-shift 2 way, bright 3 way)
- passive 3 bands EQ
- Accutronics three spring short model reverb (wich sounds horrible on anything but clean, and set very low at that, big let down here)
- direct out (after the power amp) with parametrable speaker simulator (1x12 or 4x12, in axis or off axis mic) and 25w dummy load (so you can record it full blast with the speaker sim without killing the neighbours)
- headphone out with speaker sim (not parametrable)
- a few slave outs with or without freq compensations to feed the signal to another guitar amp.
- 4 8 16 ohms speaker out
- stereo footswitch (clean/crunch and second button is the selection of the OD level between OD and OD+

I've had it for 3 weeks now and it's really good, feels like a boutique amp. the only things I didn't like was the reverb wich sounds bad and the fact they choose to put some TAD cr@p valves in there. Bass were really loose on palm-mutes so I changed v1 to a cryo Harma 7025, now it's far better, with a TS9 clone it's higain heaven :lol: I think I wont need the TS9 anymore with a full change of tubes.

The clean channel is warm and punchy, it distorts a bit too soon but nothing annoying.
The OD crunch channel is very rock & roll and with a TS9 it does some convincing older metal tones then OD+ is the same but with a 3 mode boost from hard rock to modern metal (again rolling off the gain and adding a TS9 give really good result).

The voicing switches are really interesting, the 2 modes mid switch change the sound from a bit Mesa to a bit Marshall (just comparison here, Kochs sound like themselves) and the 3 modes bright switch from very dark (very good for jazzy clean) to very bright (very good for modern metal tones on the OD+ channel)

The passive 3 bands EQ is nicely voiced and the fact it's common to all channels is not a problem, it seems Koch added some compenssation form channel to channel wich makes it works really good.

Some might think 20w is a bit low power but believe me, this thing is freakin' LOUD, at 1 on the volume it's already a bit too much for my neighbours, at 5 I'm deaf, insane :lol:

Well it costed me 840€ and it's certainly the best thing I've ever bought!

Now on the Framus 212CS, it's cheap but it doesn't sounds cheap at all. It gots great sound thanks to the V30 and have a really good projection. At first I though I'll have to tilt it but it works fine just sitting on the floor. For 300€ it's really nice :) The only thing I can complain about is the tolex is really thin so it'll rip with even the smallest hit.

That's about it :)
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2007, 12:10:47 PM »
sweet! i haven't tried the framus cab, but the studiotone is very nice! as you say, very versatile for such a small and low(ish) wattage head.

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2007, 03:54:08 PM »
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I've had it for 3 weeks now and it's really good, feels like a boutique amp. the only things I didn't like was the reverb wich sounds bad and the fact they choose to put some TAD cr@p valves in there.
Congratulations for your Koch!But about the TAD tubes,i find the "small bottle"6L6 very good !Which TAD was "cr@p"?

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 04:19:48 PM »
Amazing setup!

Great pedals, great amp, great cab - And gorgeous axe.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 06:09:30 PM »
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I've had it for 3 weeks now and it's really good, feels like a boutique amp. the only things I didn't like was the reverb wich sounds bad and the fact they choose to put some TAD cr@p valves in there.
Congratulations for your Koch!But about the TAD tubes,i find the "small bottle"6L6 very good !Which TAD was "cr@p"?


TAD EL84 aren't too great, they're a bit blury and give more and more loose bass the higher you run them. The TAD 7025 in v1 is not clear enough and output too much bass into the amp, loose bass again. They're not really bad but there's far better out there. I'll buy 2 Harma STR 12AX7 and some of their Sovtek EL84EH wich sound great it seems.

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Amazing setup!

Great pedals, great amp, great cab - And gorgeous axe.


I don't use all those pedals most of the time, I just run an ISP Decimator into the loop and a Behringer TO800 in front (very good TS9 copy, believe it or not). I also use from time to time an Artec Vintage Power Wah (better than most wah 2 or 3 time pricier IMO) and a whammy 4

The guitar is a Schecter Twin Tribal, a somewhat rare double neck, 6 baritone on top, 6 standard on the bottom. I heard there's something like 200 of them around, mine is heavily modified so I don't believe it's worth much anymore :D
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 06:51:10 PM »
Here's my current setup :



Ibanez RG3120 in drop Bb with JS Moore handwound pickups (sorry Tim :/ those were custom ordered to my specs, bridge is Alnico 8 16k double pole pieces, neck is 13k I believe, Alnico 5), planet waves cables, Artec Vintage Power Wah, Whammy 4, Behringer TO800 (soon to be replaced by a Bodenhamer Bloody Murder, boutique TS9 clone), Koch Studiotone and Framus 212CS obviously :D It's almost perfect, I still need a few tubes, my TS9 clone and a good setup and repair to the RG.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 06:37:19 PM »
Nice Amp!
That's two of us in here with Koch amps then fending off all the Engl and Laney users!

Perhaps I should get my koch out and post a picture of it on the internet too!  :lol:

Sorry for that bad jokes but being a koch owner too they come with the territory!!

Were the original Tubes Koch branded ones?
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 07:23:14 PM »
Original tubes are TAD, I never liked TAD very much.
Over here Koch is pronounced kosh so it doesn't sound that bad, real pronounciation is korr btw.
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