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Yamhammer

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 08:41:11 AM »
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Ah youve made up your mind allready  :lol:

Anyway, a good set of pickups is never a waste, just dont sell the burstbuckers right away since you might want to consider putting the MQ's in a LP special kind of guitar, or even in a semi. The only p90 i still have is in a semi and i would not ever consider to have it otherwise.

Very interesting.
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Henk

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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 08:59:53 AM »
I would try stuff too, a P90 rocks but its use is limited when compared to a humbucker IMO. For that matter, the most versatile setup will allways be two splittable humbuckers for a les paul.

I dont thich the chambered LP's sound more like an accoustic guitar really, for what i can remember is that they sound a bit warmer and have a bit more depth to the sound acoustically. Basically youll have a bit more wood in the sound when plugged in.

The sound of a semi is a different ballgame, the basic difference between a solid and semi is more about resonance then sound. The solid center in a semi can make is sound like a solid, just as clear or dry, but then with the resounding effect of the chambers. Probably the chambers in your LP will add a bit resonance, but not much.
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Yamhammer

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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2007, 09:32:41 AM »
True.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2007, 11:19:22 AM »
MQ's?
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2007, 01:00:37 PM »
Ah great, ill bet that will be alot different then the BB's.

The BB, HD and MM are all pretty tight sounding pickups, i find the BB even so tight i wouldnt be able to use it for anything.

Plugged 'open' sound is really a pickup kind of thing, it describes a certain balance in the sound where so-to-say lows, mids and highs seem to blend in on eachother, another word often used is HUGE sounding.

The chambers do however add a bit of resonance which could be what you mean, but in a roomy reverb kind of way.

Im probably wining about this  :lol: , but anyway, your HD would probably be the most open sounding of your three pickups IMO.
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2007, 11:33:40 PM »
I don't know about that yet...
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2007, 08:50:52 AM »
With cranked gain at stage volume? No i dont think a P90 will make you smile. For beatles and such, perfect.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2007, 08:53:55 AM »
A P90 in the neck of Les Paul will sound sweet as... but I'd think you'd be better off (for what you want) with just a not-so-hot humbucker instead, something more vintage in the bridge position. Maybe both?

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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2007, 01:47:39 PM »
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A P90 in the neck of Les Paul will sound sweet as... but I'd think you'd be better off (for what you want) with just a not-so-hot humbucker instead, something more vintage in the bridge position. Maybe both?

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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2007, 02:48:00 PM »
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A P90 in the neck of Les Paul will sound sweet as... but I'd think you'd be better off (for what you want) with just a not-so-hot humbucker instead, something more vintage in the bridge position. Maybe both?


I'm only searching for a tight, punchy, attacking, clear and articulate neck pickup for playing clean stuff and light overdrive stuff...I can't understand why a P-90 won't deliver that sound? I always thought a P-90 would have more attack, tighter bass and less (jazzy) smooth sound compared to a humbucker......

By the way: Do I have to change the original Gibson electronics for the Mississippi Queens?


It really depends, in a higher gain situation, IF you set up the pickup quite high so it will take enough string action, you might have a winner, it also might be it wont cut trought the mix, allmost impossible to say really so do try that with the BFG.

It is said that many newer gibsons with the BB's have 300k pots, i have tried the BB's in a CS and those were EXTREMELY trebly IMO. It wont be difficult to determin which pots you have and to change them.

Otherwise if you have the feeling you need even more brightness, there are also 1000k CTS pots......

There are so many options and variables you can even make poop sound terrific.

FWIW, a friend of mine playes some old beatup MIJ strat, sound horrible traight into the amp, very dry/middy and no sustain whatsoever. But when he plugs it into his rack it just sounds like you standing next to friggin hendrix.

EDIT: I personally think the best cutting neck humbucker is still an alnico 2 pickup, it just needs to be fairly tight. And yest that will also give you that vintage bluesy sound, you could try a '61 ressue SG which have those in the neck position, will give you a rough idea. The '57 classic HB's from Gibson are not very tight though.
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2007, 03:17:13 PM »
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It really depends, in a higher gain situation, IF you set up the pickup quite high so it will take enough string action, you might have a winner, it also might be it wont cut trought the mix, allmost impossible to say really so do try that with the BFG.

It is said that many newer gibsons with the BB's have 300k pots, i have tried the BB's in a CS and those were EXTREMELY trebly IMO. It wont be difficult to determin which pots you have and to change them.

Otherwise if you have the feeling you need even more brightness, there are also 1000k CTS pots......

There are so many options and variables you can even make poop sound terrific

Ok, thanks for your help!
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2007, 09:34:27 PM »
Cant say, very subjective really. Some pickups work very well with 300k pots and others just die. Probably Tim knows best about that.
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2007, 11:52:28 AM »
Ok, I think it will be fine :wink: 

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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2007, 02:16:05 PM »
Sorry I came in late, I was away a bit and rushed through the threads.  I have a chambered Les Paul with a Riff Raff bridge and Stormy Monday neck.  This is a great blues/rock combo (though TO uses it for classic metal!).  The SM gives really beautiful thick clean tones (think of a fat strat tone), but can get you the Kossoff mellow tone too if you crank it a bit. The Riff Raff is a great bridge pickup for all classic rock tones with a little extra cut if you dig in more.

Another combo that worked really well is an Emerald bridge and AIV Mule neck.  I moved this set to my metal front Zemaitis clone but they have a great sound in general.  They are a bit more powerful version of the RR/SM set.  Also the AV/AIV combo give an almost out of phase tone, very Peter Greenish.
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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2007, 03:40:29 PM »
Thanks for joining PhilKing!

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