difference between OFR and licensed FR?

[CJ]

whats the difference between the two? and looking at some guitar descriptions, some say double locking, some don't. All floyd's are double locking aren't they? doesn't this just refer to the fact that they lock the strings at the nut and the bridge, or no?

[noodleplugerine]

The only difference between OFRs and LFRs is that LFRs are licensed, ie, they're copies. OFR is Original Floyd Rose, just like you have Original Gibsons, and then Edwards etc.

Most Floyd Rose copies are made from cheap metals, where the knife edge dies much quicker, and then you need to replace them. Other LFRs have different mechanisms, etc, but essentially they're all variants of the original OFR.

Some LFRs are shitee. Some are great.

But the OFR beats them all imo.

[CJ]

ok well not any time soon, but i'm starting to think about what guitar i want at the end of the school year. i want a floyd. i originally wanted an RR5, but they don't have floyds. i'm looking into deans now, all of which have licensed floyds, except for the super expensive USA models. what is the knife edge whatever, and what does it matter? and how expensive would it be to buy an OFR? how about putting one in a guitar thats not already routed for one, such as the RR5 or one of the non-trem ML's?

[noodleplugerine]

The Dean LFRs are very shoddy imo, tried the Vendetta, could have sworn it was made of plastic.

An OFR costs about £150, and chances are you'll need to do some routing to get it in.

The knife edge is the pivoting point of the bridge, since that gets alot of abuse it gets worn down - And when cheaper metals are used, it gets worn down very quickly.

OFR tend to have much higher QC than most LFR makers.

[CJ]

how much would it cost to completely route out a guitar for a floyd, approximately? would it actually be better to get a regular non-tremmed ML for like $500, and then put in an OFR? is this even possible with the type of bridge that's on there now? And any clue if the quality is any worse on the regular ML's than on the Dime ML's and razorbacks?

[noodleplugerine]

None at all.

I presume the more expensive models are better quality, but who's to say. I'd personally rather go with something Japanese.

But if you're certain you want a Dean, and you're certain you want an OFR, then go for either a guitar with an OFR, or the cheapest version of the guitar without an OFR.

If you're going to be buying an OFR, and you're going to be routing your guitar, best to save as much money as you can towards the above.

[Lord Blakers]

Personally, I'd just buy one of these:

http://bcrich.com/assassin_px3t.html

Neck thru, OFR and sexy as f*ck.  $700 at musiciansfriend.com

[noodleplugerine]

Personally, I'd just buy one of these:

http://bcrich.com/assassin_px3t.html

Neck thru, OFR and sexy as f*ck.  $700 at musiciansfriend.com

The knobs look foul - And the pickups are awful, but a guitar at that price with an OFR is indeed VERY intriguing.

I may be pessimistic, but there must be a QC issue with those for them to go so cheap - I have never been impressed by BC Rich.

[CJ]

i am 100% against BC Rich, though that doesn't look quite as obnoxious as usual. I'm looking for a real unique guitar that doesn't scream NOOB (aka BC Rich). I was originally looking at something like the slime razorback or a different dime guitar, but they all have licensed floyds, and they're already $1000. now, i guess i could always play it for 2 years until it wears down and then replace it... but, i found this that i thought was very cool. http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=39&TempID=10&DepartmentID=1&STRID=193353&CategorySubID=681&CategoryID=681&BrandID=1611&CategorySubPriceRangeID=0&pagesize=10&SortMethod=2&Method=3&PriceRangeID=0&SearchPhrase=&Contains=&Search_Type=Department&GroupCode=&categorysubsearch=true

i've never seen a burst like that, and i wanted an ML. so... $580 for guitar, $150 floyd on ebay?, how much would re-routing cost? $200 max?

that is by my calculations $930, with room for error. thats $70 less than a dime, with an OFR.

[waves]

i followed your link and i got this:

"Dean  Playmate Avalanche J Electric Guitar (3/4 Size, Classic Black)" i assume thats not what you meant??

did you mean this?: ML 79F Electric Guitar with Floyd Rose (Assorted Colors)

[JDC]

I don't like dean razorback necks, they have a point sticky out bit down the middle, don't see the point of it, it's annoying and pointless, dean MLs don't have this though

my jackson RR3 has a licenced floyd, use the bar it won't go back in tune, it'll be either slightly flat or slightly sharp

if your gunna get a floyd make sure you know how to change string on floyds, and know how to stretch string properly, I've heard too many stories of idiots who do it all wrong and then snap lots of 0.009 gauge strings

[CJ]

i followed your link and i got this:

"Dean  Playmate Avalanche J Electric Guitar (3/4 Size, Classic Black)" i assume thats not what you meant??

did you mean this?: ML 79F Electric Guitar with Floyd Rose (Assorted Colors)

link works for me... its an ML79, no trem, blueburst finish.

yeah i don't want to get screwed by a licensed floyd, which is why i'm wondering how expensive it'd total to buy a floyd and get it installed. and no, i don't know how to use a floyd, never have. but i'll learn.

[FELINEGUITARS]

So buy a guitar with a copy floyd if you need to and buy and new Floyd and have it fitted

We have fitted many new Floyds to guitars that are ok construction-wise but the copy Floyd is a let-down

The OFR is much better quality than the copies provided it is set up properly

[CJ]

Feline, that may be a possibility. The dime guitars are too expensive to be buying and then buying a new floyd. I am considering the M79T, which is cheap enough to throw in a OFR, but i don't really like they're finishes. Do you think it would be too much work to install a floyd in a non-floyd guitar? how much would it cost? I'm willing to spend up around $1000 on the guitar.

[noodleplugerine]

Alot of guitars with LFRs need to be routed anyway to get an OFR in - Be sure if you're paying extra for an LFR, the routing is at least right, else buy the Stoptail model and get it routed yourself.