Author Topic: difference between OFR and licensed FR? (Read 17087 times)

CJ · « **Reply #15 on:** November 21, 2007, 03:28:03 AM »

question- the non-trem models aren't like a gibson stop tail. they have that triangular piece at the bottom that the strings go to. are there gonna be holes left in the body from removing that.
and for god's sake, could someone please give me a general range of how much it might cost to put one of these in?

Will · « **Reply #16 on:** November 21, 2007, 04:44:10 PM »

Yeah, its a string through I think, so there will be holes left.
You may want to ask one of the luthiers around here, but our prices may differ, its a fair bit of routing

jt · « **Reply #17 on:** November 21, 2007, 05:27:28 PM »

:D Personally i`d buy a Edge Pro 3 trem from Ibanez. Cheaper well made & just as good as a OFR. Better still just buy a Ibanez RG range guitar allready fitted with a edge pro trem. There well made & easy to come buy, they dont cost a fortune either.

:D 8)

CJ · « **Reply #18 on:** November 21, 2007, 05:37:03 PM »

Quote from: jt

:D Personally i`d buy a Edge Pro 3 trem from Ibanez. Cheaper well made & just as good as a OFR. Better still just buy a Ibanez RG range guitar allready fitted with a edge pro trem. There well made & easy to come buy, they dont cost a fortune either.

:D 8)

that may be a consideration. i'm planning on getting the trem off ebay, so i'll go for what i can get for cheap. I'm really not into any superstrat style guitars. I want either an ML, Razorback, or Rhoads- whatever i can get with a decent trem for the best price.

Orkestra · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2007, 05:41:08 PM »

Well, theres more KERPLUNK in a LFR...

the OFR is lighter, but made of a single cast of metal i believe. EG the base is one cast of really good metal. Kahler actually tune their bases.

LFR's CAN be knocked out cheaply and quickly. But Schaller's are really good trems.

CJ · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2007, 05:57:04 PM »

all of this advice means nothing to me if no one will tell me how much it'll cost to re-route a guitar. i mean, all i need is like under $200, under $300. general price range. if it's going to be too much i may get like an RR24 or something.

Afghan Dave · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2007, 10:51:15 PM »

Quote from: callme.nasty

all of this advice means nothing to me if no one will tell me how much it'll cost to re-route a guitar.

Sorry to sound like an ass but...

1) You DON'T know which guitar you will buy.

2) We don't know the luthiers you live near.

How the hell could we tell you?

I think you should be a bit more grateful for the time people put into answering your questions.

jt · « **Reply #22 on:** November 22, 2007, 12:17:05 AM »

:D Its impossible to give accurate info on cost but bear in mind. If your guitar has a fixed bridge it`ll need to be routed out. This has complications. If the guitar you buy is already fitted with a LFR style trem then it`ll already be routed out. This will make the job cheaper. Remember if the guitar needs routing the Guitar repairer/Luthier will have to be very very careful not to get the job wrong or they`ll F**k up a guitar totally & if you`ve payed a lot say £400 for the guitar it`ll be ruined. This means that repair/luthiers will charge alot for them taking the risk. You should budget for anything from £100 to £200 just for the fitting of the trem not including the price of the trem unit. Again if i was you i`d look to buy a guitar already fitted with a good quality LFR trem or OFR.

:D 8)

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #23 on:** November 22, 2007, 12:30:57 AM »

Alot of LFRs will still need routing.

CJ · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2007, 12:50:19 AM »

Quote from: Afghan Dave

Quote from: callme.nasty
all of this advice means nothing to me if no one will tell me how much it'll cost to re-route a guitar.

Sorry to sound like an ass but...

1) You DON'T know which guitar you will buy.

2) We don't know the luthiers you live near.

How the hell could we tell you?

I think you should be a bit more grateful for the time people put into answering your questions.

dude don't think i don't really appreciate the help. i mentioned that if i'd be putting a floyd in a not-trem guitar, it would be the ML79. as i said, i know you can't give me an accurate amount, but i want to know if me guessing like $200 max (not including the OFR) is way off, or what. When i'm putting all costs together, i'm thinking of what will everything cost at the max.

so jt, you think $100-$200 sounds right?

and i could get the ML79 with a LFR for only like $20 more, but if i'm going to be spending a good bit on a guitar (this will probably be my last for a while) i want to get exactly what i want. They don't have the 79F in the blueburst. plus, if noodle's right about possibly still needing routing with that, i don't see the purpose.

Will · « **Reply #25 on:** November 22, 2007, 01:13:58 AM »

If it was routed for a LFR, my understanding is that it would need far less routing, and the routing itself would not be in such an obvious place as to cause aesthetic issues if a bit scruffy. I would go for the one with a LFR.

I have the feeling that with the US economy / current exchange rate, it would be hard for us to judge the cost over there.

google search : http://en.allexperts.com/q/Guitar-General-649/Floyd-Rose.htm

thats a lot of money....

Less invasive options? (Kahler is back in operation... - try not to get into a debate about FR vs Kahler :P)

CJ · « **Reply #26 on:** November 22, 2007, 01:21:45 AM »

hmm... i wonder if that $400-500 in that link you gave me was including the floyd. i couldn't possibly image $500 for cutting some wood, no matter how perfect it needs to be. and why would they need to refinish? maybe some touch up around the cut, but certainly not a full refinish?

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #27 on:** November 22, 2007, 01:37:25 AM »

An original Floyd costs about £150+ over here

Fitting one to a guitar that is already fitted for a LFR wil take about 2+ hours including routing (we charge £40 per hour)

Fitting one to a hardtail guitar will take a lot more work and i cant give you an accurate time figure till i know which guitar (but as a guide - maybe double the time quoted above for routing and installation)

Be careful of guitars with Tunamatic bridges as it can be awkward to fit a floyd on a guitar with a high neck angle/tunamatic bridge

We have fitted a number of OFRs to Dean MLs tht already had a LFR and it worked out great - we did have to order a Floyd with a short block as the ML is a thin bodied guitar

Check exchange rate for idea of what thae prices equate to in $ US
Currently £1 = $2.05
But you need to find what a local repairman would charge - may be cheaper due to a different cost of living in the USA etc

CJ · « **Reply #28 on:** November 22, 2007, 05:27:55 AM »

Quote from: FELINEGUITARS

An original Floyd costs about £150+ over here

Fitting one to a guitar that is already fitted for a LFR wil take about 2+ hours including routing (we charge £40 per hour)

Fitting one to a hardtail guitar will take a lot more work and i cant give you an accurate time figure till i know which guitar (but as a guide - maybe double the time quoted above for routing and installation)

Be careful of guitars with Tunamatic bridges as it can be awkward to fit a floyd on a guitar with a high neck angle/tunamatic bridge

We have fitted a number of OFRs to Dean MLs tht already had a LFR and it worked out great - we did have to order a Floyd with a short block as the ML is a thin bodied guitar

Check exchange rate for idea of what thae prices equate to in $ US
Currently £1 = $2.05
But you need to find what a local repairman would charge - may be cheaper due to a different cost of living in the USA etc

hey, thanks for the info. have you ever done the hard-tailed ML? and i could probably be wrong, but i thought the conversion rate only came into play when dealing between countries. i thought that goods and services and stuff still end up being the same when dealing within your own country. i don't know i'm tired. i don't know any stores who i'd trust doing this with though. i'd have to look around.

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #29 on:** November 22, 2007, 10:02:51 AM »

Exchange rate
I only meant so that you had a proper idea of the scale of cost.
Wasn't suggesting shipping any guitars to have it done

Look to find a respected guitar maker in your area and ask the question of him/her.

So look at google and make a few calls........till you find someone that can do the work, otherwise your wish to have the work done will only ever be so much hot air......