Author Topic: superstrats (Read 8066 times)

indysmith · « **Reply #15 on:** December 04, 2007, 08:22:00 AM »

^ but the JEM is about twice the thickness of a soloist, with far pointier horns, and the carve of its 'bum' is also quite different. i just dont see it tbh

Stevepage · « **Reply #16 on:** December 04, 2007, 08:53:04 AM »

Quote from: indysmith

^ but the JEM is about twice the thickness of a soloist, with far pointier horns, and the carve of its 'bum' is also quite different. i just dont see it tbh

Well Ibanez had to change the design a bit otherwise they would of been in trouble with Jackson. The thickness of RG's and USA Jacksons are about the same, though Japanese Jacksons are slightly thinner.

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #17 on:** December 04, 2007, 09:50:59 AM »

Quote from: indysmith

^ but the JEM is about twice the thickness of a soloist, with far pointier horns, and the carve of its 'bum' is also quite different. i just dont see it tbh

[Gary Coleman voice] What you talking about Willis? [/Gary Coleman voice]

A Jem is about 44mm - not unlike a strat
An 80s Jackson soloist was about the same

I can assure you that the outline was the same, all bar the treble side cutaaway, which was more scooped out on the Jem - I had blueprints for both guitars and superimposed one over the other way back when...

_tom_ · « **Reply #18 on:** December 04, 2007, 03:48:29 PM »

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Proper superstrats imo are regular strats which have just been hotrodded.

For me that's exactly NOT a superstrat - That's a strat with a humbucker.

Super strats should definetly have an altered body shape imo.

I sort of agree about the "strat with a humbucker" thing but then again I dont like the feel of most "shredder" superstrats (neck too flat and wide), and prefer the look of traditional strat bodies anyway. The only thing I would change about it is maybe the neck - thinking of getting a Warmoth compound radius neck so its a bit easier to play on the upper frets, 16" radius like my old Charvel makes it easy. I dont mind the normal strat body, it works and is comfy without being too thin and light :)

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2007, 04:16:48 PM »

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:D I`m sure TO will correct some of this as we go along but there's always a dozen or so different versions of these stories floating around & i`m sure they vary from country to country ...

I think that what JT wrote is correct in the broad strokes. You cannot underestimate Wayne Charvel's input on what would be later be called the "super strat". (Note: I know both Wayne and Michael Charvel pretty well [we are on first name terms] and I endorsed Wayne guitars for a couple of years, and have heard a lot of these accounts right from the source)

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Eddies Strat i think was fitted with ... [an] a old Gibson humbucker pick up from a Gibbo 335. [ Legend says he re-wound the pickup coil when he did this i`m not sure TO will probably now !

This has been confirmed to be true, but EVH likes to downplay others' input in the work done on his guitar (he LOVES to portray himself as the Christlike Master Carpenter of Guitar) ... the pickup was repotted, for sure, and also rewound from what I know about the research done on that guitar ... but was it done by EVH all by his lonesome using a record player and by the light of a coal-burning stove, as most EVH religionists would leave us to believe? I personally think that the work was probably done by Wayne.

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... he then did a custom paint job on the body. He refers to this guitar as "Frankenstein" This became the blueprint for this type of instrument.

True.

jt · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2007, 04:33:56 PM »

:D Have to say i agree about Charvel they were all the rage back in the day, more so than Jackson`s. I also agree that the EVH legends about what he did or didn`t do have been wildly exaggerated not least of all by the man himself over the years !

:D 8)

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2007, 05:00:59 PM »

Superstrats just rule, nuff said haha.

_tom_ · « **Reply #22 on:** December 05, 2007, 10:24:44 PM »

I'm currently watching this on ebay.

Special edition mahogany body USA strat. Any idea what a good price for this would be?

sambo · « **Reply #23 on:** December 05, 2007, 11:14:42 PM »

10p because Strats are worthless....?

:lol:

Philly Q · « **Reply #24 on:** December 05, 2007, 11:41:20 PM »

Quote from: FELINEGUITARS

and the Jem was copied from Vai's Jackson soloists although given a few strat like features too. The RG body shape is a Jackson soloist shape with a deeper cutaway, just like Steve used to modify his.

Don't forget the Charvel Green Meanie too! That was the one that actually had the cutaway carved out as far as the edge of the scratchplate. And it had the HSH pickup configuration and a prototype of the "lion's claw" routing under the Floyd.

It wasnt long after the Meanie "died" that the Jems first appeared.

indysmith · « **Reply #25 on:** December 06, 2007, 12:10:24 AM »

ahhh, the green meanie - that guitar was badass 8)

ilÿti · « **Reply #26 on:** December 06, 2007, 12:18:14 AM »

I'm waiting for Charvel to make a replica of the green meanie and sell it for $25,000.

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #27 on:** December 06, 2007, 04:17:47 AM »

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I'm waiting for Charvel to make a replica of the green meanie and sell it for $25,000.

You can get a Wayne for 1/10 that price, and it's made by Wayne Charvel himself.

http://www.wayneguitars.com/guitars/meanie_green.html

Stevepage · « **Reply #28 on:** December 06, 2007, 08:55:02 AM »

and you know it's going to play similar to old charvels too

_tom_ · « **Reply #29 on:** December 06, 2007, 11:55:07 AM »

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10p because Strats are worthless....?

:lol:

but... its special edition!

Author Topic: superstrats (Read 8066 times)

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