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« on: December 20, 2007, 04:07:49 PM »
I've just started getting into photography so yesterday and today I took my sisters camera (Canon EOS 350D) around the village I live in to see if it was worth pursuing. I've uploaded the best ones onto a deviant art page, let me know what you think for my first few attempts :)

http://tomr61.deviantart.com

Also for people who know about this, is there any other camera in the same price range as the EOS 350D that I should consider getting? At the minute I want to buy myself the 350D as I know how to use it now and it seems to produce good quality pics.

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 04:39:28 PM »
PM Johnny Mac; he's a great photogrif!

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 04:45:35 PM »
Your stuff is good so far, you should definitely pursue it.

I don't know much about cameras though, the bassist in my band is the manager of a big Jessops store though. If you have anything in mind I'll ask his opinion.

Personally I bought an old film camera off eBay, an Olympus OM-10, and I love it. Really makes you think about ISO, shutter speed, aperture etc and making every shot count. Also a bargain at £20.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 04:58:58 PM »
Yeah I've used a film camera in the past and was ok with it but much prefer the speed of a digital. It does have a manual mode but auto makes life a lot easier :P

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 06:00:32 PM »
Buy the 400D which is the newer version of the 350D and my weapon of choice.  Very similar in its user friendliness to the 350D, but it's a 10megapixel camera rather than 8, and it's got a bigger rear screen.  I find it a tad simpler to play with too.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 06:11:07 PM »
Its also a lot more expensive by the looks of things :( £350 for just the body.

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 07:07:11 PM »
i hope i'm not the only one that read pornography in the title... where's dave?  lol

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 07:08:59 PM »
The canon EOS range is good.
I was always a Minolta user and splashed out for the Dynax7D before they withdrew from the digital camera market.

Canon seems to be the best bet.
There is nothing wrong with the 350 although I always feel that spending on good lenses is more important.

With photography it is more about the skill of the user as long as their kit is ok
Digital has been the great leveller and lets amuteurs get great results, but getting to know your camera is a must do to get best results

Your first shots look good

General advice given to hopeful photographers:

Get to know all the ins and outs about depth of field and composition
and you wont go far wrong.
An artistic eye will let you get great results with a point and click whilst lack of thought and an all bells and whistles camera wont get the best results
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 07:10:24 PM »
Quote from: Davey
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BTW - Tom - I like the Misty road shot
Nice how the fog and the out of focus distant road (caused by being outside range of depth of field for the settings used) create even more of an atmosphere - nice stuff!

Same with the "posts view" and similar pictures
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2007, 07:14:54 PM »
Pretty good Tom. My brother is a professional photographer and has a  great life photographing the rich and famous (as clients). He is currently shooting in St Moritz otherwise I'd ask him to take a look. I think he would make some helpful suggestions about composition. He and I are both very keen on photography and learned on film cameras. BTW if anyone is looking for photos for their band, he has a studio in the West end of London and he is bloody excellent.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2007, 07:19:52 PM »
Haven't looked at cameras since the D40 and 400D.

But basically - The canon cameras at the same price are better - but... They need canon lenses.

Which is why you might want to go with Nikon.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2007, 08:16:04 PM »
I was looking at the D40 but one website I was reading on said that it has a noticeably slower focusing time than the 350D, also is only 6mp whilst the 350D is 8 I think. Also the D40 dosent have a focus motor built in so the lenses need to have their own motor for auto-focus. Not sure how much of a problem that is as I'm fairly unknowledgable - are good lenses with their own motors hard to come by in comparison to regular ones?

As I said before I'm leaning toward the Canon because I'm allready familiar with it, and I think the quality of the stock lens is fine for me at the minute. Also because my sister has one we can pay half each for new lenses which wont be quite so bad :)

Cheers for all the help and feedback on the photos.

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2007, 08:17:19 PM »
My dad has a 350D+ and I've won a couple of awards with it; it's a nice camera. Your pictures look cool too!
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2007, 08:35:47 PM »
Evening Tom!

Don't worry about camera models for now just take pictures, what you have is great to learn on.

I had a look at your pics. You have to get it off auto Tom and use manual as they are under exposed
So you need to read up on how the light meter works in the camera. Basically it it measures reflected light, so will be affected by different tones and colours as they are calibrated to 'see' everything as 18% grey.
So use the spot meter function, the icon looks a bit like this (.) The back of your hand nr the thumb will give you a reading very close to 18% grey as does grass. If your going for fine resolution then iso 400 250/1 f11 with a 30mm lens, which is what your camera set the exposure at, isn't going to get that. Try a iso 100 60/1 f5.6, which is the same exposure but moving the whole thing -2 stops.
As for composition, try 'The Rule Of Thirds'. So the view finder has four imaginary lines two vertical and two horizontal that produce boxs up and across ( a bit like a grid reference) Compacts have this grid option on the screens. Then you can put one feature in one third and balance it with something else in another.

Dept of field as Jonathon pointed out is a good thing to read up on. As are shutter speeds and lens perspective.

Hope this helps Tom.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2007, 08:56:07 PM »
All that exposure stuff is just confusing me now :lol: The only thing I can find on my camera that you've described there is the iso settings, where I can choose between 100, 200, 400, 800 and 1600. Theres also white balance with presets for auto, daylight, night etc and a custom option.

edit - just realised how to adjust the stops, though I dont think it displays what its on, you can just see the focus changing as you adjust the thumbwheel for it. Now I've adjusted this stuff and got the indicator on the light meter centred, the shutter speed (is that the iso?) has gone really slow even on the highest setting, so the photos are turning out blurry =\

another edit - was just playing around in macro mode with manual focusing etc trying to get the depth of field stuff worked out and got this with a quick shutter speed and flash.



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