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Kilby

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« on: December 25, 2007, 06:11:44 PM »
OK it had to come I'm starting to fall out of love with my Eggle Berlin :(

Soundwise it needs Mules or Crawlers, Player wise I need a finger transplant  :roll:

The real issue is it seems to need a lot of trussrod tweaking, it does appear to be temperature related, but as my house is 106 years old it I can't do a lot about it :(

My other guitars dont suffer near so much (a Ric 12 string, Wolfgang and a maple SG amongst others), but most of the others have laminated necks. Even my

Today (it was real cold last night) my strings where an extra 3mm higher @ the 12th fret. Eventually it settled to 2mm extra

Any suggestions other than getting better central heating installed  (the room is already double glazed & stuff)

It's pissing me off so much I'm considering going back to a Fender as they never suffered anything like the same problem

Any thoughts of saving my love affair (or should I be loyal to my Ric)
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2007, 10:39:03 PM »
were are you keeping it... is it worth looking into some kind of humidity control.  Just try and keep it in as stable an environment as possible, not always easy but there must be somewhere in the house.... might be worth keeping it in the case as well.

if its a new guitar i would take it back for a new neck... this is why i carbon reinforce most of my necks!!!

Kilby

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 01:25:39 AM »
Quote from: WezV
were are you keeping it... is it worth looking into some kind of humidity control.  Just try and keep it in as stable an environment as possible, not always easy but there must be somewhere in the house.... might be worth keeping it in the case as well.

if its a new guitar i would take it back for a new neck... this is why i carbon reinforce most of my necks!!!


It's living in the spare bedroom (same one as the others live in) in it's case. I even dropped down to 9s from 10s to see if that would improve matters (marginal difference.)

I checked the others out and none of them suffer in the same way. Though the Wolfie is the only other non laminate neck, but the floyd rose may be offsetting the effects a little (the Berlin is a hardtail)

It's NOS it was built in 97 but stayed in the store for 10 years till I bought it. TBH I love the guitar (as does everybody else wo plays it), but I want to be able to just pick the bugger up and play it like the others

I guess It may be worth moving it to the bedroom, which is colder but more consistant.
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Henk

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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2007, 10:10:42 AM »
Ive had similar problems with all of my thinner necks, allthough maple seems to be quite resistant to temerature changes. As such it seems to me that dampnes + temp changes are what the problem is. A well oiled fretboard does more or less eliminate the damp factor IMO.

 Things that i do to eliminate this is keeping the fretboard oiled with the dunlop citrus oil, which is very nice IMO, use form cases with plenty neck support all over and store with the neck in upright position. It seems that string tension plays a part in this (metal responds more to temp changes than wood) so maybe backing off the tension a bit prior to storing might do it. Also did you put the guitar against the outside wall or the inside wall? Usually there is more temp changing when put against an inside wall, or well kind off depends on how you heat your house probably.

I once tried storing a guitar with the thrussrod loosened and without strings, not a very bright idea..... It might make a bit of difference to tighten the thrussrod a bit more, the guitars i have that are set up the tightest also repond least to temp changes.

Also, Elixer strings have less string tension, a .10 compares to a .09 set so you can keep the feel of a .10 but play with lesser tension which can be nice on a petite eggle.

Anyway, my 2 cents on the subject, if i buy a guitar which i know has been hanging in the shop long i would always soak the fretboard thoroughly with oil. Mostly they are very dry from the shops heating. Probably you know all this stuff, but like i said, just saying how i do it since i live in an even older house.... :wink:

With a bit of care it should be perfect resting in its case, oh yes, if you dont have a form case and had the guitar laying down on its back its probably just that.

The longer i play the more i like FAT necks :lol:  8)

EDIT: A full tremelo springload might add to the problem since the springs tighten when it gets colder.
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2007, 03:52:02 PM »
Well the guitars are stored against tn iner wall in their cases (with 2 teenage kids who still rampage around the house like baby elephants it's a necessity)

It may be a little to do with me as well as I prefer very little neck relief in the 1st place and like the neck being very flat (only really into rhythm guitar and a prference for 12 strings did that to me :( )

I was considering elixers as thats whats on my sons wolfgang and theyre nice strings.

Iv;e only oiled the fretboard oncc in the months I have owned it. It dosn't look dry at all but I suppose Ebony could be a little deceptive (unlike rosewood).

I guess I may just have to slacken my strings off every time I put it away, but I'm so lazy
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