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Jonny

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« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2008, 07:38:03 PM »
But Fender Custom Shop and PRS guitars are freakin' expensive.
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« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2008, 08:03:09 PM »
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so are Mercedes,BMW atc. but ya get somewhat what ya pay for  :P
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« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2008, 09:14:59 PM »
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so are Mercedes,BMW atc. but ya get somewhat what ya pay for  :P

Quite true.

I'm gonna go to the Belfast Guitar Emporium on Saturday and I'm gonna play ALL the Fenders, etc. there.

Or at least, the ones near the bottom so it isn't a hassle to take them down.
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« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2008, 10:58:12 PM »
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so are Mercedes,BMW atc. but ya get somewhat what ya pay for  :P

Quite true.

I'm gonna go to the Belfast Guitar Emporium on Saturday and I'm gonna play ALL the Fenders, etc. there.

Or at least, the ones near the bottom so it isn't a hassle to take them down.


Nah. Do it the other way.

Start at the top. The one that's most expensive - then work down to the bottom.

You'll find one that will feel just right and that is your benchmark for all the rest.

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« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2008, 10:59:12 PM »
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I am sure I have been lucky. Although still attain some are better bets than others (although trying the breed first is ALWAYS suggested to see if ya even like).
I have NOT however heard a bad word (certainly of late) about a certain breed I mentioned, guess they CARE :)



You must have indeed been lucky but I suppose to be fair the vast majority of guitars made by the major companies will be fine to play. You're going to come across a small proportion that just feel 'wrong' and also a similar number that feel far better than the those that are just fine.

Personally I wouldn't want to be unlucky and shell out for a £1000-£2000 guitar - that I haven't played, only to find it's one of the 'wrong' ones  :(

At the very least - for that kind of cash - I would be looking around for one of those guitars that simply feels a cut above the rest to play.

The 2 LP's that I own are examples of this. They both stood out from all the rest in the store, as guitars that felt and sounded far better than identical models.

It's probably just a personal preference thing, as to how a guitar feels but if you buy a new guitar without seeing it first, then you're denying yourself the chance to find one that's built just a little better or has been made from a higher quality piece of wood, for example.

Anyway ... This all just opinion.

I'm pretty certain there will be lots of people on this forum who are completely satisfied with guitars bought sight unseen. Although the thing is there may be those that aren't happy at all.

You just never know ...  :wink:

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« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2008, 11:09:36 PM »
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« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2008, 11:17:07 PM »
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so are Mercedes,BMW atc. but ya get somewhat what ya pay for  :P

Quite true.

I'm gonna go to the Belfast Guitar Emporium on Saturday and I'm gonna play ALL the Fenders, etc. there.

Or at least, the ones near the bottom so it isn't a hassle to take them down.


Nah. Do it the other way.

Start at the top. The one that's most expensive - then work down to the bottom.

You'll find one that will feel just right and that is your benchmark for all the rest.

I meant literally, lol, they'll have to get a ladder to get the ones at the top. lol..
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« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2008, 04:00:09 AM »
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I am sure I have been lucky. Although still attain some are better bets than others (although trying the breed first is ALWAYS suggested to see if ya even like).
I have NOT however heard a bad word (certainly of late) about a certain breed I mentioned, guess they CARE :)



You must have indeed been lucky but I suppose to be fair the vast majority of guitars made by the major companies will be fine to play. You're going to come across a small proportion that just feel 'wrong' and also a similar number that feel far better than the those that are just fine.

Personally I wouldn't want to be unlucky and shell out for a £1000-£2000 guitar - that I haven't played, only to find it's one of the 'wrong' ones  :(

At the very least - for that kind of cash - I would be looking around for one of those guitars that simply feels a cut above the rest to play.

The 2 LP's that I own are examples of this. They both stood out from all the rest in the store, as guitars that felt and sounded far better than identical models.

It's probably just a personal preference thing, as to how a guitar feels but if you buy a new guitar without seeing it first, then you're denying yourself the chance to find one that's built just a little better or has been made from a higher quality piece of wood, for example.

Anyway ... This all just opinion.

I'm pretty certain there will be lots of people on this forum who are completely satisfied with guitars bought sight unseen. Although the thing is there may be those that aren't happy at all.

You just never know ...  :wink:


Well, after one Fender CS Flathead I figured it was SOOO well put together then another from same seller sight unseen would be pretty safe bet.
And I have NEVER played a bad PRS. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than can be said for another major manufacturer whom I had to play literally 10's of LP's from to find my Good one.
Point is, if IMO PRS can do it (and they are cost to cost right there with another biggy) why can't the other?

Also, dunno bout UK as not tried when there, but here in US a GOOD dealer will allow you a period to try a guitar that is of any worth and return if not to your liking.
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« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2008, 12:45:08 PM »
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I'm gonna go to the Belfast Guitar Emporium on Saturday and I'm gonna play ALL the Fenders, etc. there.

Or at least, the ones near the bottom so it isn't a hassle to take them down.


try their tokai relic les paul, if they still have it, that is.

granted, it's almost as expensive as a gibson, but i tried one immediately after trying a les paul classic antique in marcus (ok, so that's about half an hour later, haha, they're hardly next door), and it was like trying a genuine gibson next to a cheap epiphone.

also try their eggle, but mine's nicer.  :lol:

ok, just try everything they have.

out of interest, when were you last in the emporium? i haven't been in for about 6 months, and they were quite low on stock, but if they're back up (as their website suggests) i might take a spin down next week.

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« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2008, 12:48:26 PM »
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Well, after one Fender CS Flathead I figured it was SOOO well put together then another from same seller sight unseen would be pretty safe bet.
And I have NEVER played a bad PRS. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than can be said for another major manufacturer whom I had to play literally 10's of LP's from to find my Good one.
Point is, if IMO PRS can do it (and they are cost to cost right there with another biggy) why can't the other?


i agree nick. after all the japanese guitars i have tried, i was willing to take a chance on my edwards because, basically, to get something as good as an average edwards would cost me twice as much (far more if we're talking genuine gibson) in the UK.

at the end of the day, it comes down to money, and obviously QC. You have to assume you're going to get an "average" model, and Japanese QC is pretty good, certainly good enough to risk IMO. Unless I'd got a total lemon (which would have been sent back), I figured it would be at least as good as anything i could get for anything close to that price in the UK.

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« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2008, 07:56:18 PM »
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I'm gonna go to the Belfast Guitar Emporium on Saturday and I'm gonna play ALL the Fenders, etc. there.

Or at least, the ones near the bottom so it isn't a hassle to take them down.


try their tokai relic les paul, if they still have it, that is.

granted, it's almost as expensive as a gibson, but i tried one immediately after trying a les paul classic antique in marcus (ok, so that's about half an hour later, haha, they're hardly next door), and it was like trying a genuine gibson next to a cheap epiphone.

also try their eggle, but mine's nicer.  :lol:

ok, just try everything they have.

out of interest, when were you last in the emporium? i haven't been in for about 6 months, and they were quite low on stock, but if they're back up (as their website suggests) i might take a spin down next week.

They have no PRSs, they have some Deans, 2nd hand Jacksons, Tokai in abundance, Gibsons and your usual Fenders. I popped in today to kill time (and try out necks) till my haircut. There was a unnamed red SG too which caught my eye and some arch tops.

We should meet Dave. I need your wisdom. :P

I'm a bit disappointed they don't have any more PRSs :( Now if I ever want one I'll have to order.

But I tried a Fender neck today, I think it was one of the more recent modern ones, 21 fret, etc. the neck was tiny as hell. Don't think a fender is for me. It was nice and thin though, I think I prefer fatter ones.
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« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2008, 08:24:19 PM »
haha, i haven't got a notion, you're probably better off without my "wisdom"...  :lol:

thanks though. i don't remember there being any deans or gibsons last time I was in, so sounds like they have some new stuff.

They actually said they'd be getting some new stuff in last time I was in, but they'd been saying that for so long without delivering that i just thought "yeah, sure...  :roll: "

:lol:

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« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2008, 08:42:47 PM »
lol.. They better well stock some damn PRSs

With the Deans I've seen, it just looks like another Matchetts (cool looking guitars, nothing better)
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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2008, 08:52:04 PM »
now that i think of it, maybe they had one dean last time i was in.

i'd heard matchetts had started to stock dean... haven't been in there in ages either.  :lol:

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« Reply #74 on: January 12, 2008, 09:10:09 PM »
Don't think they have.

You walk in, in the main 'guitar section'

-----------F/G/O--------------
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C/L..._____JKS___...........IB
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|......|..................|............|

C/L = Copeland, Lefties
F/G/O = Fender, Gibson, Other (Epiphone, etc.)
JKS = Jackson, and other various other guitars which you can get in any color as long as it's black (quote editted from Ford)

And then your amps.

Belfast is dying in guitars, tbh. But there's a good place out in Bangor or somewhere. Or I think Lisburn, but then again it's Lisburn, you can't find Lisburn, you have to drive around till you somehow end up in it. Or less you'll be heading in that direction and before you know it, you've past it.
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