Officially Pissed OFF with FRs

[CJ]

on the contrary, i can't wait to get a FR guitar. i have two tune o matic guitars and they get hella boring. plus, how can you do crazy harmonic squeals with a hardtail?

[headtheball]

With a pick-hand slide. At least, that's how I do it.

[CJ]

With a pick-hand slide. At least, that's how I do it.

???

[gamesandy135]

Why not try some graphtec saddles?
I've been assured that it's incredibly hard to break strings with them on.  
Or is that not possible with a FR?  
I've never used one.

[noodleplugerine]

Why not try some graphtec saddles?
I've been assured that it's incredibly hard to break strings with them on.  
Or is that not possible with a FR?  
I've never used one.

wtf?

Compeltely different system!

It's not possible with a stoptail either afaik.

[gwEm]

cheap flyod roses are indeed worse than torture.

i actually think a proper OFR is only slightly more effort than a stop tail - plus they sound 10x better than a cheap one. the difference in tone is very marked.

[FELINEGUITARS]

Cheap floyds put people off them
An original would turn your head around - yes they are majorly expensive BUT they are well engineered bits of kit and that kind of quality costs!

The Speedloaders are cool bits of kit - once set up - no tuning up required - pop in the string and click the saddle back in place and BANG - you're in tune
They will only fit a couple of scale lengths 25.5" and 24.75"

Strings are made by Dean Markley and are very good

[FELINEGUITARS]

And the 2nd string keeps #$%!& coming out of the damn saddle! Either the saddle is messed up, or something.

Your problem is one of two things

1) you still have a bit of broken string stuck in the sadlle from a previous break and it is stopping the block from closing properly on the string- so undo it and clean it out properly[/list:u]

2) the block has a groove in it from being too soft/overtightened and the string is slipping out as a result - if so , look at getting a replacement block.[/list:u]

[Jonny]

And the 2nd string keeps #$%!& coming out of the damn saddle! Either the saddle is messed up, or something.

Your problem is one of two things

1) you still have a bit of broken string stuck in the sadlle from a previous break and it is stopping the block from closing properly on the string- so undo it and clean it out properly[/list:u]

2) the block has a groove in it from being too soft/overtightened and the string is slipping out as a result - if so , look at getting a replacement block.[/list:u]

Yup. Number two. I just don't have time to do anything I want to do right now which is annoying.

[jibidy]

I have one guitar that doesnt have a vibrato or floyd. i have a kramer that has an original floyd but the saddles keep snapping cos they are soo old. that is very annoying.

My peavey liscenced FR isnt all that either. Ide like a proper good one that works flawlessly.

Invest in a Nez??

ZR or Edge?

[Jonny]

I have one guitar that doesnt have a vibrato or floyd. i have a kramer that has an original floyd but the saddles keep snapping cos they are soo old. that is very annoying.

My peavey liscenced FR isnt all that either. Ide like a proper good one that works flawlessly.

Invest in a Nez??

ZR or Edge?

Probably a ZR.

Do Originals fit into Licensed ones? I could just change the bridges.

[noodleplugerine]

I have one guitar that doesnt have a vibrato or floyd. i have a kramer that has an original floyd but the saddles keep snapping cos they are soo old. that is very annoying.

My peavey liscenced FR isnt all that either. Ide like a proper good one that works flawlessly.

Invest in a Nez??

ZR or Edge?

Neither. Will probably be as expensive as an OFR, and you'll end up waiting for months if you order it from Nez.

And tbh the Edge is alot worse than an OFR imo, and the ZR isn't that much better - At that point its just preference. I would go with an OFR just to avoid my guitar looking like a spaceship.

[Jonny]

I have one guitar that doesnt have a vibrato or floyd. i have a kramer that has an original floyd but the saddles keep snapping cos they are soo old. that is very annoying.

My peavey liscenced FR isnt all that either. Ide like a proper good one that works flawlessly.

Invest in a Nez??

ZR or Edge?

Neither. Will probably be as expensive as an OFR, and you'll end up waiting for months if you order it from Nez.

And tbh the Edge is alot worse than an OFR imo, and the ZR isn't that much better - At that point its just preference. I would go with an OFR just to avoid my guitar looking like a spaceship.

WITH LAZ0RZ! PEWPEW!!1

[Will]

With a pick-hand slide. At least, that's how I do it.

???

pull off with your left hand  4 2 0 on the g string, and run your right hand down the strings, makes weird harmonics.

If you are on about the really high bendy ones, then just bend behind the nut, many a technique to counter not having a vibrato

[Afghan Dave]

.. many a technique to counter not having a vibrato

Watch the master of the hard tail - Jake E Lee!!