Anyone recommend a good, safe MP3 web site

[sambo]

Same, just I don't use Limewire - the guy in the Apple shop was telling me it works in a really weird way that leaves all sorts of cr@p saved all over your harddrive. Don't know if he's paid to say that say that so I'll use iTunes store, but I still don't like the sound of it, and I'm not using iTunes store :P

Haha yeah, my PC is basically ruined, probably no thanks to Limewire. :(



Rob- interesting that you say that!!! I remember my family used to have a record player... the only record I remember hearing though was Golden Brown by the Stranglers. That definitely sounded sweet on vinyl.  :D

[indysmith]

I'm just trying my best to stop the mp3 revolution which IMO is destroying quality music

I'm still trying to stop the CD revolution cos they sound pretty sh1t to me.

Black plastic on a decent system sounds way better

Oh no doubt! I'm a bit of a vinylhead too, but it all depends on the setup. It's a lot easier to get a great sound off of CDs than it is with vinyls (what with the setting up, the cleaning, the right needle, cartridge, tonearm etc.) I can pop a CD in my mac, rip it in Apple Lossless and it's ready to go; you can even listen on your iPod.

We could start on the inevitably better mixing and that you'll find on LPs, and the hideous compression on modern CDs, but that's a completely different conversation, and not an actual artifact of vinyl, just the mix.

[Transcend]

Same, just I don't use Limewire - the guy in the Apple shop was telling me it works in a really weird way that leaves all sorts of cr@p saved all over your harddrive. Don't know if he's paid to say that say that so I'll use iTunes store, but I still don't like the sound of it, and I'm not using iTunes store :P

Haha yeah, my PC is basically ruined, probably no thanks to Limewire. :(



Rob- interesting that you say that!!! I remember my family used to have a record player... the only record I remember hearing though was Golden Brown by the Stranglers. That definitely sounded sweet on vinyl.  :D

thats why if you use anything p2p use kazaa lite, it has all the cr@p taken out and uses the same servers

i recommend getting it

and downloading spybot and adaware to get rid of all the cr@p

[Kilby]

Oh no doubt! I'm a bit of a vinylhead too, but it all depends on the setup. I can pop a CD in my mac, rip it in Apple Lossless and it's ready to go; you can even listen on your iPod.

We could start on the inevitably better mixing and that you'll find on LPs, and the hideous compression on modern CDs, but that's a completely different conversation, and not an actual artifact of vinyl, just the mix.

I just object to having to reaquire about 600 albums (many of which are unavailable on CD) as I don't have any methof of playing them anymore :(

Personally I's say it's more than just the mix, though modern mixes definately don't help (a complete lack of dynamics as fas as I am concerned)

I stayed clear from MP3 as long as possible and much preferred the Sony (Dolby ?) ATRAC compression (gives longer battery life too youknow ;) )

I even moved over to the darkside (an iPod nano) after my wife finished off my 2 portable minidisk players, and lost my Creative Zen player <sigh>

[blue]

i find the wholesale adoption of mp3 as the most popular form of music delivery very sad.  they really do sound terrible.  i was so excited a few years ago by the arrival of DVD-Audio and SACD, both of which sounded stunning.  of course the moronic politics between all the electronics manufacturers who couldn't have just settled on one system combined with the mass move to even cr@pper sound from mp3 effectively scuppered both formats.  the stuff i have in hi-res audio generally sounds magnificent, all the depth of vinyl without the drawbacks of discs that wear out and the inevitable background noise.  if only the world could see sense!!

damn them all!! damn them all to hell!!!    

 :roll:    :oops:

[Kilby]

I want a SACD player for the DSOTM release which from all accounts is magnificent (even if you don't like floyd)

[blue]

I want a SACD player for the DSOTM release which from all accounts is magnificent (even if you don't like floyd)

yep, it is one of the very best sounding.  a lot of "audiophiles" look down on surround mixes of music, but even they largely agreed that this one was excellent.  of course, the original stereo version, which is also on the dics, sounds wonderful too.  if you buy the disc, it has a cd layer which will play in an ordinary cd player too.  it's remastered and also sounds excellent.

[everton_fc]

Just to go back to topic before I opened a can of worms re: MP3's being the spawn of Satan. If found this site:

http://www.7digital.com

you can pay by PayPal too. All is good. Got Iommi wailing away in my ears now.

[noodleplugerine]

Indy - Your point is ridiculous.

I'll be frank - The digital revolution can only be a good thing. Sharing of music, and the freedom of the current media, with everyone being their own promoter is brilliant.

Agreed, the quality of an MP3 does not beat that of a CD - but COME ON - The revolution has only just started and the quality can only improve. Give them a bloody chance.

Even nowadays things like OGG Vorbis etc are around - Which have superb quality audio. Just because Mp3 is bad - Doesn't mean all digital music is bad, and the quality will ofcourse improve. Look at the analogue music development - And expect the same with digital music.

[Scotty477]

Just to go back to topic before I opened a can of worms re: MP3's being the spawn of Satan. If found this site:

http://www.7digital.com

you can pay by PayPal too. All is good. Got Iommi wailing away in my ears now.

Nice to see you got sorted out.

I have the first 8 Sabbath albums on MP3. If you can suggest a way to get them from me, I'll be more than happy to let you have them.

The total size is 437 meg.

[indysmith]

Indy - Your point is ridiculous.

I'll be frank - The digital revolution can only be a good thing. Sharing of music, and the freedom of the current media, with everyone being their own promoter is brilliant.

Agreed, the quality of an MP3 does not beat that of a CD - but COME ON - The revolution has only just started and the quality can only improve. Give them a bloody chance.

Even nowadays things like OGG Vorbis etc are around - Which have superb quality audio. Just because Mp3 is bad - Doesn't mean all digital music is bad, and the quality will ofcourse improve. Look at the analogue music development - And expect the same with digital music.

No, your point is ridiculous! I have nothing against the digital revolution and I said nothing against it. Indeed I was advocating it! Are CDs not digital? I'm putting down poor quality music, not freedom of the media, gay rights, file sharing or whatever.
You speak of the quality of digital music improving - what I'm saying is that it is doing the exact opposite! In digital audio we began with CDs in the early 1980s which are very good quality, and we now have MP3 (OVER 20 YEARS LATER) which is far inferior sound wise.

[AngusYoung01]

Regarding the whole downloading stuff, I usually download a track or two when checking out a band (illegally I'm afraid, but its noyl temporary) then I try to buy the album if I like it.

[Scotty477]

I'm very much in favour of not listening to MP3 for general listening but do use it to shop about, practise etc. I don't have a problem with people who only listen to MP3 (see my previous post) but I will point out that you lose so much with MP3.

The problem with MP3 is the fact that it's compressed, causing a loss of quality - in basic terms - and to those with an ear for music the loss of quality is fairly obvious.

However .... there's a good proportion of people who couldn't care less about quality of the audio signal and just want to hear music.

They will never be able to hear the difference in quality between MP3 and CD anyway.

I say live and let live here and move on.

[telemusic]

You need to check out we7...
My friend Ron has 9 tracks from his recent album on a free download site which has Peter Gabriel as one of it's founders...

http://www.we7.com/public/albumDetails/Red-Pearls?albumId=55300

They've recently done a deal with Sony BMG (starting I think in April) to add to the huge catalogue of tracks already available to download totally free...The blues section is amazing...

www.we7.com

It's a good alternative to iTunes and much cheaper...
Most of the guitars Ron uses are BKP enhanced...
Unsigned artists can get tracks on the site by putting them up for review...
Have any other BKP users got tracks on we7...?

[noodleplugerine]

Indy - Your point is ridiculous.

I'll be frank - The digital revolution can only be a good thing. Sharing of music, and the freedom of the current media, with everyone being their own promoter is brilliant.

Agreed, the quality of an MP3 does not beat that of a CD - but COME ON - The revolution has only just started and the quality can only improve. Give them a bloody chance.

Even nowadays things like OGG Vorbis etc are around - Which have superb quality audio. Just because Mp3 is bad - Doesn't mean all digital music is bad, and the quality will ofcourse improve. Look at the analogue music development - And expect the same with digital music.

No, your point is ridiculous! I have nothing against the digital revolution and I said nothing against it. Indeed I was advocating it! Are CDs not digital? I'm putting down poor quality music, not freedom of the media, gay rights, file sharing or whatever.
You speak of the quality of digital music improving - what I'm saying is that it is doing the exact opposite! In digital audio we began with CDs in the early 1980s which are very good quality, and we now have MP3 (OVER 20 YEARS LATER) which is far inferior sound wise.

By attacking Mp3, you're standing in the way of progress - and that's exactly what MP3 is - Progress. The ability for anyone, anywhere, to obtain music freely. Due to the popularity of MP3, virtual (since you didn't like the term digital) music will continue to develop and improve.

By standing in the way of mp3, you're standing in the way of progress - And as such are living in the past. Mp3 is the start of something big - And expect the quality to continue to improve, and for music to become more and more readily available.