Just for metal?

[remak]

I've been listening to a lot of the clips on the site, and notice that most of the players are into are hard rock or metal. Some frighteningly good players and great clips but the prevailing musical direction left me wondering if BKPs are winners in the overdrive Blues to Metal categories but maybe not so at home for Jazz and ultra clean sounds.

For an example of ultra clean, I'm thinking of something like Michael Cashmore if anyone knows him (he's great), or even the 80s jangly King Crimson.

For Jazz, well, anything that isn't fusion. A range from Wes Montgomery, Kenny Burrel through Steve Howe's fade out Jazz solo on Siberian Khatru.

Assuming I stick with humbuckers (rather than P90 types) what would you fine players out there suggest as a flexible BKP with a gorgeous  clean sound?

[Sailor Charon]

Assuming I stick with humbuckers (rather than P90 types) what would you fine players out there suggest as a flexible BKP with a gorgeous  clean sound?

While I may not be a fine player, I have to say that Warpigs have a very good clean sound.[/url]

[Jonny]

Assuming I stick with humbuckers (rather than P90 types) what would you fine players out there suggest as a flexible BKP with a gorgeous  clean sound?

While I may not be a fine player, I have to say that Warpigs have a very good clean sound.[/url]

+2

I have a Warpig bridge and I use it for cleans, it suits me.

[Davey]

VH II has a really nice clean sound.
i'd say the abraxas would too, along with the rebel yell.. but that'd depend a lot on the amp aswell.

[il˙ti]

For Jazz, well, anything that isn't fusion. A range from Wes Montgomery, Kenny Burrel through Steve Howe's fade out Jazz solo on Siberian Khatru.

Stormy Mondays would be ideal for those tones. If you want a little "kick in the rear" go for Mules. I might record a jazz classic one of these days with my Mule equipped semihollow if it's any interest. I have this guitar mainly for fusion but it's great for classic jazz tones aswell.

[WezV]

Manhattan!!!!!!!!!!

[Philly Q]

Manhattan!!!!!!!!!!

Undoubtedly, but the OP said he wanted humbuckers, not P-90 types.  As a teacher, Wez, you should be the last guy not to RTFQ (sorry, being a smartarse again...   :oops:).

I'm going to +1 on Stormy Mondays, although I must confess I've never heard of Michael Cashmore (for a moment I thought he was the gay bloke who used to play Colin on Eastenders).

I think it's a case of a lot of the players being geared towards rock and metal.  The pickup range will cover everything.

[WezV]

I'm not an english teacher Philly!!!

guilty as charged - i didnt read it properly... but i do think a Manhattan partnered with a mule or stormy monday in the bridge will be a good solution


oh, and i dont suppose anyone will  understand why i really liked typing the opening sentence to this post... Our head told us all at a training day that we were all English teachers - that caused the English teachers to get very pissed off.  It also caused a lot of the other teachers to get very worried about anything they put down on paper and start moaning about how they would have trained to be an english teacher if thats what they wanted to be... amazing how a boss can annoy all his staff with one little sentence

[Philly Q]

Ah, you can't beat a bit of the old "it's not in my job description" routine...  

[ailean]

BK's are high quality pickups that will suit any style, I have a Nailbomb set which I find very versatile, but it's probably not the best choice for clean work.

Mules and Stormy Mondays are supposed to be awsome, but ALWAYS email Tim and state what you want, he's rarely wrong!

Edit: I think BK's get a rep for rock and metal because they do it SO well and you just can't resist piling on the gain and they don't get muddy, but I have a strat with Irish Tours in and it sounds so sweet played clean, they have a depth to the sound that you just don't seem to get elsewhere. My wife recently replaced some Seymore Duncans with BK's (Black Guards) and there was a marked improvement to the depth and clarity of the tone.

[remak]

Thanks for all the replies!

Actually WesV I am tempted by the Manhattans but not for this particular guitar (Its a LP Standard with Burstbucker Pros which sound respectable at high gain but uninspiring clean in a Rivera Chubster).

ilyti: yes, I for one would be most interested to hear a Jazz piece with a classic Jazz tone, if you get the time to record it. Indeed if any one feels like playing a chord clean with the tone at 0, 3, 7 and 10, I'd love to hear it.

So the recommendations are Mules, Stormys, VHIIs, Abraxas and 1 for Warpig.

I was leaning towards the VHIIs which on the clean shoot out had an exceptional highs and defined bassend, but was also wondering about

i) Black Dogs as a pair or
ii) VHII neck, Abraxas as bridge combo.

Good idea bad idea?

What are the tonal differences between the hot trads (Dog etc) and the trad trads (Mules, Stormys)?

[Antag]

ii) VHII neck, Abraxas as bridge combo.

I'm not convinced about this.  I don't have a VHII bridge or any Abraxas models, but judging by the output of my VHII neck (which is more than a match for the Nailbomb bridge I have in the same guitar), I wonder whether the VHII neck might be a bit too powerful to balance properly with the Abraxas bridge.  Like I said though, I don't have an Abraxas so don't know for sure.  Ask Tim about this...

[il˙ti]

ilyti: yes, I for one would be most interested to hear a Jazz piece with a classic Jazz tone, if you get the time to record it. Indeed if any one feels like playing a chord clean with the tone at 0, 3, 7 and 10, I'd love to hear it.

So the recommendations are Mules, Stormys, VHIIs, Abraxas and 1 for Warpig.

I was leaning towards the VHIIs which on the clean shoot out had an exceptional highs and defined bassend, but was also wondering about

i) Black Dogs as a pair or
ii) VHII neck, Abraxas as bridge combo.

Good idea bad idea?

Abraxas set would do jazz very well.

I'll do a song when I get the time for it, sure. In the meantime, check these improvs I did with the Crawler set. The Crawler neck is very similar to the Abraxas neck, and the 3rd clip has a part with the tone rolled back.

[remak]

Well, after an email exchange with Tim I decided to follow his suggestion and ordered a set of calibrated Mules. A conservative choice but I hope one with satisfying results.  

Once they arriveI'll  post some before and after clips.

[shaman]

Mules are monsters-I just dropped a Mule into my JAckson PC-1 and shhheeeeeeeetttt!the sweeet candy rock tones..the effortless pinch harmonics..it really is the pup for this axe now...now, what should I put in the LP Custom that I jacked it from????