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« on: April 14, 2008, 06:34:56 PM »
I`m about to wack one of my valve amps on ebay so I was just wondering if anyone has any tips to offer me.

Postage tips, should I leave valves in etc

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 07:01:19 PM »
Which amp?
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 07:26:50 PM »
the laney mentioned in his tagline?

anyway, my tips would be to start bidding at 0.01p, add a reserved if it makes you feel secure. lots of pictures and description, plus a headline which has some keywords in. you might want to point to some previous auctions of similar items to show what the going rate is. research postage costs before the auction.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 07:59:55 PM »
Yeah the Laney.

Doesn't ebay charge for photos? So I could link to an external site like imageshack.

I will wack it in seconds out in a minute.

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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 10:49:01 AM »
i think it does, but i think its worth having one as a gallery pic

EDIT: just realised my first post in this thread might have seemed sarcastic - in fact this wasn't the case.

by gallery picture, i mean paying 30p extra (or whatever) to get that small picture which appears on the left on the listings page. i think thats worth it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 11:01:38 AM »
You get one free gallery picture, but you can link (or embed) other images that are externally hosted. That's what i did (though my amp didn't sell :(), and it keeps selling costs down. The starting price is quite crucial- don't set it too high or it won't sell :)
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 05:51:51 PM »
How much lower than what I want should I set the starting price?

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 06:24:57 PM »
Have a look at some other sales, and just wait a week or two and see how other people who are selling similar amps do it, and which is most succesful.
Personally, I would set a reserve price of a realistic minimum you would want for it, and start the bidding low

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 07:08:24 PM »
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Doesn't ebay charge for photos? So I could link to an external site like imageshack.

It's only £1.35 (or something like that) for 12 supersize photos and a gallery photo.  Next to nothing when you're selling something for a couple of hundred quid or more.

If you really want to keep selling fees down, don't have a reserve price - they charge based on the reserve price and the final selling price.  And you pay that reserve prive even if it doesn't sell.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 11:29:39 PM »
I looked into selling on ebay recently and jesus christ the fees are extortionate!

From my experience buying on ebay though, too high starting price is a bit of a killer unless you get lucky.

Lower priced auctions with no reserve will generate interest, a couple of guys will try their luck at silly prices dreaming that they might get lucky, and then some other guys will think that maybe they could get lucky with slihtly more realistic prices, and end up feeling each other out, some or all may give up or it will develop into a bidding war, and then the real serious offers will swoop in in the last 30 seconds.

The other strategy that seems to have some success is starting the bidding higher but still at a low price, low enough to attract people hoping they can get a bargain (rather than a steal), e.g just under (or maybe same as) your lowest acceptable reserve price. This will have fewer bidders overall but the bidders will be more serious about buying for a realistic price.  If you do this then don't bother with a reserve price, it tends to put people off a little (removes the "maybe i can get lucky" element and early interest)

One thing to bear in mind though is that buyers and sellers can have different ideas of what something is worth, yet Ebay seems to be remarkably consistent in terms of what items end up selling for (started at 99p many items end up going for similar amounts). So the advice given above about checking out ebay for a few weeks prior to listing should definitely be listened to, so you can get an idea of the kind of prices people are going to be wanting to get the item for, and set your start price accordingly.

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 11:55:10 PM »
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The other strategy that seems to have some success is starting the bidding higher but still at a low price, low enough to attract people hoping they can get a bargain (rather than a steal), e.g just under (or maybe same as) your lowest acceptable reserve price.

That's my approach - I'm not interested in getting 30 bids from people who think I'm going to sell them a guitar for £5.  All I need are two bidders who'll compete with each other at a serious price.  Or in the worst case, one bidder will have to do.  I just set the starting price at the absolute bare minimum I'd be prepared to accept.  If that puts people off, so be it.  

I actually find reserves more offputting, because you're just taking a shot in the dark.  Reserves are totally pointless - they don't benefit the seller in any way, the only beneficiary from a reserve price is eBay because it gets more fees.

If I want to spend £380 on a guitar but someone has one ending in five minutes for £400, I'll probably pay the extra 20 quid.  But if he has a reserve of £400 and no bids, I'll probably bid my £380 - no guitar for me, no sale for him.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 12:43:55 AM »
+1 on everything Philly said.

I have 650+ transactions on ebay, split between sales and purchases and I don't think I've ever bought something with a reserve price for the same reason that Philly gives.

Keep it transparent when you sell. If a buyer has an idea of how much something is going to cost they'll be more likely to follow your listing and not keep looking for another item the same or similar.

Start your price at the bare minimum you would let it go for with no reserve. It can be worth it to put up a competitive 'buy it now' (BIN) price as well sometimes. Just do a search on completed items (the same as you're selling) first before you do though.

A good example of this was a Yamaha Magic Stomp effects unit that I bought new for £60 in Guitar Guitar Glasgow. I had hardly used it and thought a BIN price of £40 might be ok.

I decided to do a quick search on completed listings for the unit and was surprised to find that they were going for between £100-130 used. It seemed that I got mine in a sale of some sort.

Mine sold for £120 ... BIN price  :D

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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2008, 01:45:01 AM »
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It can be worth it to put up a competitive 'buy it now' (BIN) price as well sometimes. Just do a search on completed items (the same as you're selling) first before you do though.

Yeah, once or twice I've used the price I originally paid for something as a BIN price - when I thought it might realistically be achievable.  I figure that if I can break even it's a good result, I've hardly ever made an actual profit.

Sometimes you'll be lucky and get the one person who really, really wants that particular item and can't wait - and then you can make more on the BIN than if they'd waited for the auction to play out.  :)

But most of the time I don't have a BIN price in mind so I go for the basic auction.  Sometimes you'll make a surprising amount of money, other times you'll have 50 people watching but only get one bid.  Luck of the draw.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2008, 02:30:54 AM »
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Sometimes you'll be lucky and get the one person who really, really wants that particular item and can't wait - and then you can make more on the BIN than if they'd waited for the auction to play out.  :)


Several times I've used buy it now above prices that I'd be willing to pay simply to save myself the hastle of:

Waiting for the item to appear on the bay again, or the hastle of having to wait 5 days for the next auction only to find that the bids go above what the buy it now price of the auction 5 days ago had been.

At the end of that drama I would end up with no item. So often I just buy it now.




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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2008, 07:39:18 AM »
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