Metal + Actual Singing = ?

[gwEm]

Evidently that's not quite true - Loads of bands have ridden to fame on sounds directly copied from others.

Not saying it's a bad thing at all - Just saying I doubt the same could be done of Sikth.

Maybe we meant something different. Of course one can take some ideas or try to play in the style of someone else, or even play someone elses songs, but the attitude and feeling is something you can't copy... Well, at least in my opinion.

Of course I talk about passionate music here...

(btw - i think Sikth are pretty cool :) )

[noodleplugerine]

Evidently that's not quite true - Loads of bands have ridden to fame on sounds directly copied from others.

Not saying it's a bad thing at all - Just saying I doubt the same could be done of Sikth.

Maybe we meant something different. Of course one can take some ideas or try to play in the style of someone else, or even play someone elses songs, but the attitude and feeling is something you can't copy... Well, at least in my opinion.

Of course I talk about passionate music here...

(btw - i think Sikth are pretty cool :) )

100% agree, no cover will ever be quite the same to the original, and no band will be quite the same to another.

Personality is definitely a part of it.

[maverickf1jockey]

Sikth took a lot from experimental bands from the late '60s such as King Crimson, Syd Barret-era Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa's Mothers of Invention and updated it to a darker, more modern sound.

They are no more difficult to copy than any other band if you take this attitude. The only thing that sets them apart is their musicianship and their twin-vocal call and response songwriting.

For example have one player drone an augmented fourth and the other noodling in the whole-tone scale and then swap the two around.
This is very much the signature atonal sound of the band and is not difficult to achieve.

The timings and tempo are another matter though.

[MDV]

Nevermore popped into my head as soon as I saw the thread title.

Still there. Capital - M Metal, with singing.

[adamj]

id say in flames would be a good bet. if your into more "fashionable" hardcore theres a semi decent band called drop dead gorgeous who use singing and screaming, althugh the screaming is pants. As i lay dying seem to be using mroe and more singing too, which is just boss IMO. Even black label society are basically metal with singing if you think about it.

[waves]

just to mention, for all you periphery lovers, theres a new minute long demo of insomnia with casey's vox on it. he manages to find such good vocal lines over the music. ahhh i want them to sort an album. (not rush it though obviously)

[noodleplugerine]

just to mention, for all you periphery lovers, theres a new minute long demo of insomnia with casey's vox on it. he manages to find such good vocal lines over the music. ahhh i want them to sort an album. (not rush it though obviously)

I noticed it yesterday.

Seems good - Would love to hear a verse.

[headtheball]

Wouldn't Mastodon count for such a thing?

[_tom_]

Black Sabbath :P

Opeth have a load of clean singing mixed in with the growly stuff. Sounds great when they do it.

[il˙ti]

Iced Earth

What Metal is suposed to be.

[adamj]

Wouldn't Mastodon count for such a thing?

newer mastodon, yeh kinda. Pre blood mountain is pretty much all screaming/grunts besides the odd track

[AngusYoung01]

Bruce Dickinson is one of the greatest singers of all time, surely you knwo Maiden?  :o

[Lazy_McDoesnothing]

Thanks for the suggestions guys, you've all done me a solid.  I'm still making my way through all the downloads but I'll comment on what I've heard so far.

Protest The Hero - I'm liking there sound a lot although the singer does get a little high and slightly emo if you would call it that but still a good range.  Good band and I like what they're doing.

Sikth - Good sh!t, definitely out of the box.  Moreso than we're aiming for but they're going to stay on my playlist for a while.

Nevermore - Yes!  Closest yet of what we're trying to get at.  Our singer has a different style but this is still getting there.  AND I'm expecting my new 7-string next week. :twisted:

Mastodon - Of the tracks I found with clean singing it was pretty good.  I dig it.

Queensryche - Too 80's sounding(even their 90's stuff).  We're after more of a modern sound.

Iron Maiden - Yes I know them.  Epic or Power Metally sound isn't for us.

Iced Earth - Same kind of thing as Maiden vocally.  Great playing though.

The rest was either too Epic or Power Metal sounding or didn't have enough clean singing over heavy parts that I could find.  Keep in mind I'm not saying these bands are bad, in fact I still like them musically it's just not the vocal style we're going for.  Also, even if it's not our style it still helps to hear examples of what could be done.  I'm going to show this all to our singer and make him sing over some of these songs even if it's just humming or whatever.  

I've listened to a lot of these bands before, it's just that when I'm looking for something specific I can never find it or forget where I heard it. :crzy:

[il˙ti]

Nevermore - Yes!  Closest yet of what we're trying to get at.  Our singer has a different style but this is still getting there.  AND I'm expecting my new 7-string next week. :twisted:

Go you!

More info on the 7 please.

[Lazy_McDoesnothing]

It's an Ibanez RG7621M-BOL(mahogany body with black oil finish).  Apparently one of 12 made in 1999 with a certificate of authenticity.  I got it for an opening bid of 400USD which was my limit being my first 7.  I would have preferred the 7620M-BOL with the Edge7 instead of the fixed7 but I couldn't pass this up.