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« on: May 17, 2008, 10:18:01 AM »
It's true, all my famous LP clips aren't worth anything. I seriously love my SG, it plays, vibrates, rocks, rules, cuts, purrrs, roars, flies, oozes ... I have been converted to an SG lover.

Now I want another SG, a Mira and a V!
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 10:38:51 AM »
Haha, welcome to the club!  :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 10:45:21 AM »
Indeed!

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 11:16:34 AM »
Officially updated my Avatar :O)
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 12:13:27 PM »
I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2008, 12:17:14 PM »
You guys know what I am thinking?



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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2008, 12:22:23 PM »
Quote from: _tom_
I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.


thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2008, 12:27:40 PM »
I really want one of those Wez, but really cant afford it right now :( Maybe next year as this time I manged to spend most of my student loan on computer parts :oops: :lol:

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2008, 12:49:39 PM »
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Quote from: _tom_
I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.


thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck

I do really like the idea of a neck-through SG for extra strength, but I don't like the look of the visible neck laminations with the body wings either side.  It would be fine with a solid colour though.

It's funny, you don't hear horror stories about Flying V neck joints but they don't have much more wood in that area than SGs do.  I'd like to see an SG with a sculpted '58 V style joint:
 
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2008, 12:59:20 PM »


That looks like a chunky join! is it not possible to have an SG like that then? or is that what ESP have done with their more costly vipers?

Hunter, I am a LP lover, but SGs to me are uncomfortable to play sitting down, the top horn is too high, and it sits far too far forward, is that easy to get over?? (somehow I am fine with a V though :? )

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2008, 01:35:40 PM »
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That looks like a chunky join! is it not possible to have an SG like that then?

I don't see why not, except that the SG body is a bit thinner than a V, so the body wood under the neck tenon would be very thin.  The later '67 style V has a very thin body, but the neck joint's much longer, the neck joins the body around the 18th fret compared with the 21st on a '58.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2008, 01:47:12 PM »
For all builders that want to make a stronger SG:

Have a good look at the construction of a Yamaha SG. The neck joint is set in so that it is surrounded by the body wood on all four sides. Kind of like a square plug in a square hole. And the point where the headstock angles back, they left a little more wood so it won't snap off that easily.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2008, 02:11:14 PM »
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For all builders that want to make a stronger SG:

Have a good look at the construction of a Yamaha SG. The neck joint is set in so that it is surrounded by the body wood on all four sides. Kind of like a square plug in a square hole. And the point where the headstock angles back, they left a little more wood so it won't snap off that easily.


yeah and it weighs 10lb :O(
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2008, 03:04:05 PM »
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Quote from: Ratrod
For all builders that want to make a stronger SG:

Have a good look at the construction of a Yamaha SG. The neck joint is set in so that it is surrounded by the body wood on all four sides. Kind of like a square plug in a square hole. And the point where the headstock angles back, they left a little more wood so it won't snap off that easily.


yeah and it weighs 10lb :O(

And the body's well over 2" thick, whereas a Gibson's not much more than 1-1/4".
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2008, 03:12:58 PM »
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Quote from: _tom_
I think SGs would be perfect if they had a stronger neck joint (not that I've seen problems on any mates guitars, but heard so many horror stories..), and had the strap button on the top horn, I really dont like having it on the back.


thats why the SG i am putting together soon is a through neck and has a recessed dunlop strap lock hidden behind behind the top horn!!!.... as well as a few other little tricks to make sure it balances really well despite having a 24 fret, 25.5" neck

I do really like the idea of a neck-through SG for extra strength, but I don't like the look of the visible neck laminations with the body wings either side.  It would be fine with a solid colour though.

It's funny, you don't hear horror stories about Flying V neck joints but they don't have much more wood in that area than SGs do.  I'd like to see an SG with a sculpted '58 V style joint:
 


That is exactly the way we are doing the neck joint on the 58 style V that Will has pictured above
Notice also the very tight fitting long tenon (albeit interrupted for some of iit's depth by the neck pickup)

We do our Sg style joints the same - the Gothic Warpig has a sculted join and the body is a bit thicker , which aids strength and balance
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