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jt

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« on: May 25, 2008, 01:11:03 PM »
:D Simple really.Has anybody got 1 or used 1.

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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 05:40:18 PM »
I haven't tried this model (I'm guessing you mean the Zoom HD16CD), but I  have used a friends Zoom MRS-802BCD, which is a digital 8 track recorder with CD burner that came out quite a few years back.

It was pretty straight forward to use and the inbuilt amp simulations and effects were pretty reasonable. Having never used any kind of multitrack recorder before I managed to record three songs in an afternoon. It was so easy to use. I'm sure other Zoom recorders would be similar.

I've put one of the tracks I recorded with it on my myspace page (link at the bottom) the tune is called "Da Boogie", no BKPs as this was about 4 years ago, it's using my friends Samick Strat copy with a SD JB in the bridge tuned down drop B, along with his 5 string MIM Fender jazz bass.
The drum loop is a preset on the Zoom, all effects and amp simulations are from the Zoom but I have played with the EQ a bit on my Mac to make it sound a bit bigger, although the MP3 compression doesn't show the real quality of the original recording at all.

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 12:11:04 AM »
I wouldn't recommend one personally, you are much better off with DAW's these days, but I used to own a Zoom 1202 or something 12 track, and it was pretty good in some ways, you could get some cool drum sounds and bass sounds, but it was a steep learning curve, and expensive when you can pick up a very high spec PC for so cheap these days, for example look at Dell PC's! amazing value, plus you can use it for other stuff.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 11:41:32 AM »
:D Thanks for the replies !

Yes it`s a Zoom HD 16 CD. It can be used as  a DAW control surface, to use faders on HD16CD to control virtual faders on DAW software such as CuBase. And it comes with CuBase LE software as well as editing pattern software. So I can use my laptop with the Zoom.

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2008, 01:47:09 AM »
From reading the Zoom website it seems that you must record onto the HD16 first, then you can drag and drop the files into Cubase for mixing purposes if you want to.  Although it might slow down the process slightly (I sometimes like to be able to see what I'm recording on a computer screen as I'm doing it) it  has the advantage that you don't need to have the unit connected to your PC to use it if you want to record an idea in a hurry.

Cubase LE is a good piece of software, it's probably good enough for most home recorders without the need to upgrade to the more expensive versions.
My only quibble with it is that compared to some other bundled software it doesn't come with much in the way of plug-ins and I don't think it has any loops to get you going, but I suspect the Zoom may include those so you'd be sorted.

I think the idea of having the faders linked to the DAW is good, it's much easier to use them than to turn dials and push faders with a mouse.  

The only other point worth looking at is the quality of the audio interface. It records up to 16-bit/44.1kHz which is fine for CD quality, and again it's the most a home recordist would likely need.

Ultimately if you want to do more computer based recording then a dedicated interface from M-Audio, Presonus, Edirol etc with some bundled or free recording software may be a better option, providing you also have the disk space on your PC, but if you're looking for an all-in-one hard-disk based recording device, which has the added flexibility of doing the mixing in Cubase then it's looks good.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 07:34:50 AM »
Quote from: JJretroTONEGOD
and expensive when you can pick up a very high spec PC for so cheap these days, for example look at Dell PC's! amazing value, plus you can use it for other stuff.


Sorry, but I can't let this one fly! I'm a computer builder, and I have to say that the Dell PCs I've seen (and I've seen a few) have been wildly overpriced and underpowered.
Where a company like Dell is good is if you need a cheap PC with monitor and printer and scanner (and all the other stuff they throw in to these bundle deals). In these cases they can come out pretty reasonable, but for anyone wishing to get a good degree of bang for reasonable buck (especially if you already have the periherals), I'd steer as far clear of Dells as is humanly possible!
Especially if you want a decent sound card in your system ;) (and their motherboards are just nasty).

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2008, 11:43:03 AM »
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I wouldn't recommend one personally, you are much better off with DAW's these days


I don't think that's necessarily true. Having looked into this debate quite a lot in the past, it really seems to come down to personal preference. Stand-alone units are generally more easy to get to grips with- hit a button and you can record. And are also (obviously) far more portable than a PC setup.

But a DAW generally gives you much more tweaking an in-depth options.


Jt, check out this forum:


http://www.2090.org/zoom/bbs/index.php


Full of friendly chaps much like this place, and they are the people to ask if you want info on home recording (especially zoom-related stuff). You should be able to find answers there to pretty much any question you might have, and I know they have had several debates over PC. vs. Stand-alone units, so you will get a lot of help on that issue over there.


Hope that helps somewhat!

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2008, 12:50:01 PM »
:D Thanks for that sambo ! As it goes I own a Dell Laptop.

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