Sg pickup

[carlaz]

still have a crawler neck(same as abraxas?)

Not quite the same, I always thought they were but I think the Crawler neck's a little hotter (but still A4).  There was a thread about it somewhere but can't remember when exactly.

At least one thread! :lol:

When I got my Crawlers, I had an email from Tim claiming the Crawler and Abraxas neck were the same -- and I think the general belief about this here arose from my quoting this email.  However, I think it was later established that this was not, or rather no longer, true; presumably Tim tweaked the designs sometime after I got my Crawlers, though I don't remember whether if it was later Crawler or Abraxas (or both?) necks that shifted away from the original "unified" version.

[sgmypod]

had mine a while so don't know on this

[Philly Q]

still have a crawler neck(same as abraxas?)

Not quite the same, I always thought they were but I think the Crawler neck's a little hotter (but still A4).  There was a thread about it somewhere but can't remember when exactly.

At least one thread! :lol:

True!  :lol:

Here's one of 'em:

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10194&highlight=crawler+abraxas+neck

And having had both neck models, there was certainly a noticeable difference between them - the Abraxas seemed a bit sweeter, the Crawler a bit more rawk.  May be down to different guitars of course.  And the Abraxas had a cover.

[sgmypod]

find mine quite smooth..does cover make a big difference

[il˙ti]

At least one thread! :lol:

When I got my Crawlers, I had an email from Tim claiming the Crawler and Abraxas neck were the same -- and I think the general belief about this here arose from my quoting this email.  However, I think it was later established that this was not, or rather no longer, true; presumably Tim tweaked the designs sometime after I got my Crawlers, though I don't remember whether if it was later Crawler or Abraxas (or both?) necks that shifted away from the original "unified" version.

Yeah, changed the specs. If I remember correctly, the Crawler remains the same (back when they were the same Tim said he'd wind it for ~7,6k and that's what my '07 Crawler neck is) and the Abraxas is wound slightly lower now than it used to.

Edit: dug up that agre old post. Excuse the multiple quoting.

Is it really the case that the crawler and Abraxas neck are the same?

This, at least, I can confirm courtesy of an email to me from Tim on 07 January 2006:

They are the same pickup Carl ............. it's a wind I really like, DC7.6K Alnico IV and I use it on both Crawler and Abraxas sets as a neck so it's bang on for the Santana tone. Where things differ is in the mid position, the Crawler has AV and AIV on together which produces a serious quack in the mids. The Abraxas has AIV in both positions which produces a smoother mid with less quack.

Also a good quote for the man himself about the Crawler "quack".  :D

[Chris Rowberry]

find mine quite smooth..does cover make a big difference

A cover will make the pickup sound slightly warmer where as an open one would have slightly more presence. :)

[viking]

Have bit the bullet and bought a bridge riff raff for my sg..poor thing has had a few BKP pickups is about time I get the right one

If you found the Crawler/Bridge to be too bright,you could find the Riff-Raff/Bridge much brighter (for what i heard about it...never tried one ).Is the Crawler not vintagy-enough ?

[Philly Q]

Although the Riff Raff is always described as a bright pickup, I've never found it particularly bright in my SG-X.

It's possible that my SG has the infamous 300K pots - I've never bothered to check - which would round out the sound a little.

[sgmypod]

mine had 300k pots..so some of probs in finding pickups may have been them...only found out recently.....but crawler didn't quite work for me in other guitars

[viking]

mine had 300k pots..so some of probs in finding pickups may have been them...only found out recently.....but crawler didn't quite work for me in other guitars

What kind of music do you play?

[carlaz]

If I remember correctly, the Crawler remains the same (back when they were the same Tim said he'd wind it for ~7,6k and that's what my '07 Crawler neck is) and the Abraxas is wound slightly lower now than it used to.

Ah, that explains it!

[sgmypod]

well have quite a range I like anything from nickel creek(bluesgrass) to the birds, to sabbath, free, aerosmith, blackfoot, to D/straits, pink floyd, spingsteen, R/stones, to Queens of the stone age, system of a down......missed loads out but kinda saying my tastes have grown and diversafied as I got older....but have a few guitars to cope with this..so Sg is to be 60's - 70's sounding...lets be honest I love AC DC is why I bought it(the guitar)

[Philly Q]

well have quite a range I like anything from nickel creek(bluesgrass) to the birds, to sabbath, free, aerosmith, blackfoot, to D/straits, pink floyd, spingsteen, R/stones, to Queens of the stone age, system of a down......

Now there's a band I haven't listened to in ages - in fact all my Blackfoot albums are on vinyl!   :oops: :lol:

[sgmypod]

could have gone on for a while..but yeah good band..classic album marauder..or vertical smiles

[Philly Q]

Just to be difficult (as usual  :roll:  :lol: ) I'm going to say I liked the earlier stuff better - Strikes and especially Tomcattin'.  They lost me on Siogo, I was gutted when Charlie Hargrett left and they started having line-up changes.