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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 11:35:31 AM »

Yeah, the springs do contribute to the sound we "expect" from a Strat, but I see the hardtail as almost a different instrument, halfway between a Strat and a Tele.  And I like the look of a hardtail Strat as well - you can hardly tell from a distance but whenever I see one I think "oh, it's a hardtail!" and get a rush of childish excitement. :oops:

I notice there's no hardtail in the new American Standard series  :( .  The American series one was always really hard to find anyway - I always wanted a White Blonde one with a maple neck, but my Inca Silver rosewood was the only one I ever saw in a shop.   

I'm not totally anti-tremolo - I like what they do in terms of changing the pitch, but I don't like the way the bridge moves when you bend strings and, especially, I don't like the way you lose sustain when the bar's depressed.  If someone could invent a trem that had NO effect on the guitar at all except changing the pitch, I'd be all for it.
I'm the same - I love a hardtail stratocaster; I just don't use a tremolo enough to warrant one.
Does anyone know if they've ever made a guitar with a stratocaster body and neck, but Tele bridge, control plate and electronics?
That would be a damn cool guitar!
As for the Tremolo that has none of the effects on the guitar except for pitch alteration, it's physically impossible, and it's always going to be physically impossible. This sort of effect could only really be produced with a footpedal.
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2008, 11:37:34 AM »
I think I could knock up a partscaster for half the price that'd be just as good.

Unimpressive.

(And thats without factoring in the innate unimpressiveness of sig guitars in general and in basic principle!).

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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 11:47:19 AM »
As for the Tremolo that has none of the effects on the guitar except for pitch alteration, it's physically impossible, and it's always going to be physically impossible. This sort of effect could only really be produced with a footpedal.

Absolutely, I was talking in purely hypothetical terms!  :lol:
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2008, 12:08:07 PM »
The Billy Corgan Strat doesn't do anything for me. I like the headstock and the hardtail and that's it.

The Jim Root Tele, on the other hand. I like that alot. It's like an affordable Flathead Tele.
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 12:31:36 PM »
As for the Tremolo that has none of the effects on the guitar except for pitch alteration, it's physically impossible, and it's always going to be physically impossible. This sort of effect could only really be produced with a footpedal.
Absolutely, I was talking in purely hypothetical terms!  :lol:
I know, lol. What I was trying to say (quite unsuccessfully) was that perhaps people should begin to move away from guitar-mounted trems to outboard tremolos? Wouldn't that make a lot more sense?
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 02:34:32 PM »
As for the Tremolo that has none of the effects on the guitar except for pitch alteration, it's physically impossible, and it's always going to be physically impossible. This sort of effect could only really be produced with a footpedal.
Absolutely, I was talking in purely hypothetical terms!  :lol:
I know, lol. What I was trying to say (quite unsuccessfully) was that perhaps people should begin to move away from guitar-mounted trems to outboard tremolos? Wouldn't that make a lot more sense?

Is that what the Digitech Whammy does, in effect?  I'm sure it does other things as well.
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 03:52:38 PM »
Uhhh, a BILLY CORGAN strat!?!? How did he get his name on a guitar?? :?
Not to discredit Billy, I mean, I have to be nice to my fellow Chicago natives, but how did he get his name on that guitar? The next thing I want to know is how do I go about getting my name on one! :lol:
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 05:00:38 PM »
Uhhh, a BILLY CORGAN strat!?!? How did he get his name on a guitar?? :?
Not to discredit Billy, I mean, I have to be nice to my fellow Chicago natives, but how did he get his name on that guitar? The next thing I want to know is how do I go about getting my name on one! :lol:
Puzzled me, too. I didn't even think he was responsible for most of the SP guitar work. Isn't there an oriental looking bloke called James Iha or something that takes care of the impressive guitar work?
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2008, 05:03:37 PM »
Uhhh, a BILLY CORGAN strat!?!? How did he get his name on a guitar?? :?
Not to discredit Billy, I mean, I have to be nice to my fellow Chicago natives, but how did he get his name on that guitar? The next thing I want to know is how do I go about getting my name on one! :lol:
Puzzled me, too. I didn't even think he was responsible for most of the SP guitar work. Isn't there an oriental looking bloke called James Iha or something that takes care of the impressive guitar work?

No, Corgan does nearly all the guitar work on the records.  I don't think James Iha played on them at all until Melon Collie, but I may be wrong.
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2008, 05:07:41 PM »
I stand corrected
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2008, 05:49:44 PM »
Yeah Corgan IS the Smashing Pumpkins.

Personally i like it, kinda. I like the stylings, and LOVE a white body, black scratchplate (as everyone who has seen my humbucker Esquire...) But would instantly swap the pickups for the BKP equivalents to the Lace Sensor set is used to use. Sinner something trilogy anyone?
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2008, 07:45:10 PM »
I like it. I do think it is a tad overpriced though. I grew up with The Smashing Pumpkins when they were at their best, which in my opinion was Siamese Dream. Billy Corgan is also pretty underrated as a guitarist - I think this is because lots of people saw another guitarist in the band who wasn't the singer and assumed he must be the main guitar player.

On the subject of signature guitars I reckon a John Frusciante model is overdue.
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2008, 08:51:26 PM »
A hardtail strat?  That's like a Nashville Tele with an extra cut away isnt it? :D
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2008, 09:40:32 PM »
On the subject of signature guitars I reckon a John Frusciante model is overdue.

There is an "unofficial" Edwards Frusciante model:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-Edwards-Friscante-Replica-Strat-Relic-w-OHSC-NEW_W0QQitemZ150269070456QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150269070456

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A hardtail strat?  That's like a Nashville Tele with an extra cut away isnt it?  :D

Yeah, what could be better?  :)
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Re: New Fender signature model - what do you think?
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2008, 11:27:53 PM »
On the subject of signature guitars I reckon a John Frusciante model is overdue.

There is an "unofficial" Edwards Frusciante model:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESP-Edwards-Friscante-Replica-Strat-Relic-w-OHSC-NEW_W0QQitemZ150269070456QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150269070456

Good spot Philly, cheers  :) Not sure about that spelling of Frusciante though  :o
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