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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2008, 03:58:59 PM »
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2008, 04:12:57 PM »
You know, I think I'm edging away from it...

Maybe something Les Paul-ish with P90s?  That should give me the Tele sharpness with loads more warmth...

That's almost bringing you back to that Squier Tele Custom.

Or maybe you could find one of these somewhere:

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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2008, 04:41:46 PM »
Ah! I see this thread has taken an unexpected turn Mr Bump :lol:

It does sound like you're edging away from a tele - and you're a wise man if you can find that out for certain before you've bought one...

But just to confuse you some more though :D I think I'm probably in vaguely the same place as you, except I've owned one since February.

I've always hankered after a tele since fellow rockers in the early 80s were telling me "you can't play metal/rock on a tele". Later on I learnt about Steve Cropper and all those fine, fine guitarists - you can't do that sort of thing without a tele. I saw Johnny Cash in the late 80s before he got big again, his lead-guitarist that night did superb tele things (most of which were just "dung-tigga-dung-tigga" in nature, but it was fab). Er, who else? ...does anyone else remember the Georgia Satellites? Dan Baird, was that his name? The list goes on and on.

I owned an old squier for ages - used it live a few times, when I was doing a "Tom Petty" sort of job in a band. But it just didn't have that "twang".

Then I got the baja in february. It took me ages to find a butterscotch rather than the other colours, I tried it for 5 mins, it was ALL twang, I sighted the neck, bought it, and ran home as fast I could...

Then I discovered what all tele-lovers know - it's a beast all on it's own, and you've really got to work to make those sounds. I seriously regretted buying it for a while, especially when I got an Explorer a week later. But all the while I had "but I should like a tele" nagging away. Then one weekend I spent all day playing her, setting her up, playing her some more, adjusting amp settings (Twinfan's right btw), playing her some more... and fell in love - there was "that sound" coming out of my playing...

Sometimes I pick up the tele and it's "wot?? where's that gorgeous sound gone?". It's because I've got back into my "Les Paul" head, or whatever else I've been playing.

At the moment, if I've been playing something else all week, it takes me at least an hour on the tele to get my mind round it, and then suddenly from the next room I'll hear "that's sounding nice, which one is that?"

The sound I'm talking about is the "just on the dirty side of just breaking up" fender type amp sounds. Use the volume and tone on the guitar for clean, dirt or bite. I'm talking bends and vibrato, I'm talking staccato single note rhythm parts, etc, etc... I'm playing mainly blues, country rock, that sort of thing on it.

If that's anything like what you've been hankering after - then I'd say the tele is what you're going to want one day, but you're going to have to learn to play it like that to get those sounds - otherwise, whenever you pick it up, it is somewhat extreme and not at all what you first had in mind :lol:

Sorry for the essay (especially if I'm barking up entirely the wrong tree) but I've just got a feeling that you'll need a tele one day...

EDIT: holy-sh1t!! that thing Philly's posted is cute - wot is it? (I don't usually like the look of "exotic" teles)
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2008, 04:51:24 PM »
EDIT: holy-sh1t!! that thing Philly's posted is cute - wot is it? (I don't usually like the look of "exotic" teles)

It's a Tele Junior - probably a Custom Shop one, I think, because the production ones were cherry with black scratchplates.  Mahogany with a set neck. :)

It wasn't in the catalogue long before they replaced it with the Tele-Sonic, which was a bit more Gretschy.
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2008, 05:31:46 PM »
I mentioned earlier on in the thread that I was getting a Squier Tele Custom II today...

All I can say is wow... I'm especially impressed with the out of box set up. It was perfectly in tune and the action was great. I was expecting I'd have to change the strings but the ones they came with are pretty good...

I know I just received it today so its in the honeymoon period, but I am very impressed so far. I played for a good hour and a half without putting it down getting great bluesy kind of tones... It looks great too

Anyways, if anyone is after a cheapish tele, then I highly recommend these...

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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2008, 06:24:02 PM »
Gretsch Duo Jet?

Hmmmm........close, I think.

I've heard Mr Bump speak of: richness, Tele Sharpness, Les paul warmth and P90.

A Duo Jet with Dyna's is very tele-like with a thick single coil sound, and a Filtertron Duo Jet is slightly closer to a Les Paul but hasn't got the midrange beef. Both still rule IMHO.

But how about a Power Jet?

It has all of the above.  If you want to add big midrange growl to that list, seriously have a look at the Power Jet.

I have one and it's my absolute favorite.
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2008, 09:57:12 PM »
I'm starting to have doubts as to whether or not I actually want that SOUND.  Maybe it was the cr@p Peavey that I was playing through, but they all sounded really shrill... 

The Tele is a strange one as shrill is part of the sound.
Did you do the ol' Tele trick and knock back the tone pot a little to thicken the sound?

I'd love a Power Jet but it's a lot more expensive than a Baja.
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2008, 11:00:15 PM »
I mentioned earlier on in the thread that I was getting a Squier Tele Custom II today...
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2008, 08:51:29 AM »
Ah! I see this thread has taken an unexpected turn Mr Bump :lol:

It does sound like you're edging away from a tele - and you're a wise man if you can find that out for certain before you've bought one...

But just to confuse you some more though :D I think I'm probably in vaguely the same place as you, except I've owned one since February.

I've always hankered after a tele since fellow rockers in the early 80s were telling me "you can't play metal/rock on a tele". Later on I learnt about Steve Cropper and all those fine, fine guitarists - you can't do that sort of thing without a tele. I saw Johnny Cash in the late 80s before he got big again, his lead-guitarist that night did superb tele things (most of which were just "dung-tigga-dung-tigga" in nature, but it was fab). Er, who else? ...does anyone else remember the Georgia Satellites? Dan Baird, was that his name? The list goes on and on.

I owned an old squier for ages - used it live a few times, when I was doing a "Tom Petty" sort of job in a band. But it just didn't have that "twang".

Then I got the baja in february. It took me ages to find a butterscotch rather than the other colours, I tried it for 5 mins, it was ALL twang, I sighted the neck, bought it, and ran home as fast I could...

Then I discovered what all tele-lovers know - it's a beast all on it's own, and you've really got to work to make those sounds. I seriously regretted buying it for a while, especially when I got an Explorer a week later. But all the while I had "but I should like a tele" nagging away. Then one weekend I spent all day playing her, setting her up, playing her some more, adjusting amp settings (Twinfan's right btw), playing her some more... and fell in love - there was "that sound" coming out of my playing...

Sometimes I pick up the tele and it's "wot?? where's that gorgeous sound gone?". It's because I've got back into my "Les Paul" head, or whatever else I've been playing.

At the moment, if I've been playing something else all week, it takes me at least an hour on the tele to get my mind round it, and then suddenly from the next room I'll hear "that's sounding nice, which one is that?"

The sound I'm talking about is the "just on the dirty side of just breaking up" fender type amp sounds. Use the volume and tone on the guitar for clean, dirt or bite. I'm talking bends and vibrato, I'm talking staccato single note rhythm parts, etc, etc... I'm playing mainly blues, country rock, that sort of thing on it.

If that's anything like what you've been hankering after - then I'd say the tele is what you're going to want one day, but you're going to have to learn to play it like that to get those sounds - otherwise, whenever you pick it up, it is somewhat extreme and not at all what you first had in mind :lol:

Sorry for the essay (especially if I'm barking up entirely the wrong tree) but I've just got a feeling that you'll need a tele one day...

EDIT: holy-sh1t!! that thing Philly's posted is cute - wot is it? (I don't usually like the look of "exotic" teles)

Damn you!

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking - that's the sound I'm after!

I remember seeing Bruce Springsteen on TV, and he was playing some AMAZING lead lines on what looked to be a pretty stock Tele.  The tone was sharp and cutting, but had real ooomph, something that really hit you in your chest...  not really twang, the amp was overdriven, but THAT'S the sound that's been haunting me...

I think that you're right about living with it and getting the best out of it by tuning your amp...  I suspect that it's going to sound pretty good through my 1971 Orange with the amp volume at about a quarter....

I think that I'm coming back to the Tele...

And yes, I did tame the shrill with the tone pot, again I don't think that the Peavey did it justice...

More thinking to do, I think.  Appreciate the advice, as always.

(BTW Philly, that Tele with 2xP90s looks amazing...)

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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2008, 11:08:20 AM »
:lol::lol::lol:
I was almost sure that's where you'd be at!

Good luck with whichever way you go :D
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2008, 02:14:55 PM »
I've had a think, here's the plan:

We'd all love a Grestch of some sort, but it's not in the budget, so forget that for the moment.

A) Go back and get that Mex Tele (I assume it's a "budget" price?)

B) By my reckoning, you've got about a month to play it and see if you're into it (see steps C to D)

C) In about a month Twinfan gets his hands on a Classic Vibe tele and discovers that it is so "tele" like that he cannot bear to put a humbucker in it, and that now, with his baja, he has his "tele twins"

D) Twinfan will then be on the look out for another budget tele of reasonable quality to "Rich Robinson" instead (he'll probably need two eventually)

E) If your Mex tele is not a keeper (and you did look after it didn't you?) you now have a ready buyer in Twinfan. If it is a keeper, Twinfan looks elsewhere...

I know, I know, how to explain it all to the Missus - I have the very story you need:

"Hey, aren't the guys on the BKP forum just great: Twinfan's lent me one of his teles to try out for a month or so, just to see if I like it. What a great guy..."

If it's a keeper, she'll probably know as well, and a simple "wow, he sold it to me at a great price after I fell in love with it, wot a great bloke Twinfan is" will do. (Show her pictures of more expensive ones the same colour).

If it's not a keeper, obviously you'll take a small loss of some sort when you "give it back", if you need a story for that, how about "one of the guys at work is retiring and I accidentally put X notes in the collection cos they were stuck together - I only worked out what I'd done a couple of days later - I just can't go and ask for my money back now, it would be too embarrassing..."

Sorted :D
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2008, 02:16:28 PM »
 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sounds like a foolproof plan!  What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2008, 02:20:22 PM »
Perfect.  Absolutely stunning plan, with no obvious drawbacks whatsoever...
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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2008, 02:48:46 PM »
:lol:

PMSL!  Perfect plan - completely foolproof!

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Re: What Would You Buy? (Warning - Telecaster Content!)
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2008, 04:29:20 PM »
hahahaha excellent idea! :lol: