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curly guitar leads?
« on: July 23, 2008, 01:36:46 AM »
do they just offer practicality, slightly rolled off highs, and 70s mojo... or are there other advantages to using them?
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2008, 07:18:28 AM »
The ones I remember were poorly made and didn't last very long.They also used to tangle up . With good quality cable and jacks they should be far better now but the tangling up thing would be irritating.
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2008, 11:53:00 AM »
They have a longer lead run and the coiling increases the capacitance of the cable.

This cuts high end.

That ca be good or bad, depending on what you want. Not good for clarity, but it was actually quite a big part of hendrixes sound - cutting the high end from a strat (when he just wanted a straight up strat sound, he used a straight cable, with the caveat that with the angle of the bridge pickup, string a righty as lefty adds more lows to the wound string and more highs to the plain).

Personally, I hate em.

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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2008, 11:55:18 AM »
I still have two from the 80's and they seem to out last the good quality cables.
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2008, 12:17:03 PM »
I just managed to score 2 NOS ones.  I gave one to TO, which is the cable he used with the Scumback in his demo
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13442.0.  They do roll off the top end, but in a very musical way.  I also jsut picked up a new Vox coiled cord, which has the newer materials (99.9% OFC, gold plated connectors, etc) and it sounds good, but when you use the original coily cord you can hear the 60's & 70's tones.
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2008, 12:18:26 PM »
in fact, i was looking at that very vox one last night....
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2008, 12:24:28 PM »
Go for it, I really like it and will probably get another (I got the red, but the white is calling to me too - this is because in the 70's when I was really playing a lot, I had red and white curly cords!).  I got mine at the local music shop for $35, so don't pay more than that unless you want it quickly.
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 02:19:40 PM »
The curly cord has a buttload of mojo. For TO, I would never use one ... it's far too coloured, heavy, tangles, etc etc.

For 70s style stuff? There is no alternative>

LP with Riff Raff/Stormy Monday + curly cord + Thundertomate TB + Splawn in plexi gear + Scumback = awesome!

Using a more modern cable opens up the high freqs quite a bit, actually, I'd say from 8k and over. So, the curly cord can sound veiled when using it for metal. In the reverse, for my 70s styles stuff, modern cables sound overly harsh.

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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 06:54:26 PM »
The will make your hair go curly. Just look at Brian May.
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 10:05:15 PM »
I'd love a proper old curly guitar lead, if you decide to sell give me a shout.

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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2008, 10:18:40 PM »
I love curly leads, but I also hate treble.

There's definitely something in that treble roll-off they do that just sounds right to my ears. As a confirmed single-coiler, they're a dashed convenient way to add a little beef to proceedings, whist retaining that single-coil attack.

At practice last week, I had an AC-30 on a curly lead, and a JCM-800 on a straight lead, from a delay (set to zero, strictly using it as a stereo buffer) and it did sound absolutely ungodly.
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 10:07:45 PM »
my vox lead arrived. i must say i quite like it. obviously, i have no idea how it compares to an old vintage curly lead. but anyway as TO would say its a 'great tone shaping tool' :P :P you really hear the difference when you use it.

also, it looks cool with certain guitars, i got a white one just for the look. as headtheball says it can warm up single coils, and i think it can remove the harshness from certain tones with humbuckers on my 2204. i would consider using it for metal, but not in every situation.

i can see why hendrix and blackmore used one with their old marshall heads.

thanks Phil, for the heads up!!
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 02:14:25 AM »
If you want less treble... turn down the treble control?? :? :P

I cant tell if I love or hate the look of those curly cables.

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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 08:01:00 AM »
I'm gonna buck the trend and state, for the record, that I HATE curly leads!  Always getting in a mess. 
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Re: curly guitar leads?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 09:23:50 AM »
If you want less treble... turn down the treble control?? :? :P

I cant tell if I love or hate the look of those curly cables.

i think the look 'improvement' depends on the style of the guitar, looks great with any sort of fender (IMO etc!)

amp eq controls are usually after preamp distortion has occured... it would be more like using an EQ pedal on the front of your amp (which i also do sometimes, less freqently these days), or rolling your guitar tone control down. it sounds a bit different to the tone control though - its more natural in a way. i dont know if you experimented with your behringer eq as a booster in the front of your amp, maybe you disagree, but i think it gives a really good way to vary the character of your drive sound. post preamp eq adjustments can be difficult/impossible to adjust some things.

considering you use mule/pig-90 les pauls into your laney, i'm not sure how much a curly lead would be a good purchase for you. maybe one day, if you had dual normal p90s. playing around with it, its quite applicable if you dial in a tone you like, but find it too harsh in the treble.
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