Someone with a little vista experience please!

[phlip]

To Turn it off (I do but I work in IT so I know the potential issues)
If you do switch off UAC install Firefox and use that as your web Browser.

Start >Run >MSCONFIG
Click on the System Configuration Tab
Scroll down Click on Disable UAC
Click Launch
Reboot

Your Done.

BTW Mac Lovers (Oh and I do use Mac's at work too, they're all PC's and as such are as secure as the person using them.) Security analysis has shown in the first 6 months of 2008 more exploits were found in OSX than in Vista.  :shock:

[badgermark]

I've got both. I prefer the Vista to the Mac to be honest, i just find it easier to use, and i hate having to press control to right click sometimes, pain in the arse.

Although, i like using garage band on the Mac (its a laptop), and the movie editing software is very easy to use. i also use it for watching dvds and just the occaisional internet use (like right now).

Just depends what you want to use it for to be honest, one isnt better than the other, they're too different for that really.

P.S. The fact that you can't go through every window on macs using Apple Button tab really grinds my gears!

Go into your system settings and turn on two finger clicking. Means you can put two fingers on your track pad and click the button for a command click.

Oh and to cycle through windows it's apple + ~

[indysmith]

P.S. The fact that you can't go through every window on macs using Apple Button tab really grinds my gears!

You can cycle through every window of a specific app though with apple button + ~


EDIT: Now if we had the option to delete our own posts, I could use it as Badgermark's already said it!

Go into your system settings and turn on two finger clicking. Means you can put two fingers on your track pad and click the button for a command click.

YOU LEGEND.

[MDV]

I turned it off.

But I might just turn it back on.

I mean, I have firefox and AVG 8, and no virus or malware ever got so far as to do anything bad to any of my PCs in 7 years of XP, but still....

[badgermark]

Yeah I'm pretty awesome.

Other cool shortcuts- Apple and [ or ] to move back and forward in safari. Apple + shift + [ or ] to shift between tabs. Also a pretty cool feature is apple + alt + 3 for a full screencap, apple + alt + 4 for a draggable box, to take screen caps of anything you want. ROCK!

[indysmith]

Also a pretty cool feature is apple + alt + 3 for a full screencap, apple + alt + 4 for a draggable box, to take screen caps of anything you want. ROCK!

On my mac it's apple+shift+3 or 4 for screencaps.

[FELINEGUITARS]

Mac mouses have two buttons, have for a while. Plus pressing control while clicking does the usual rmb thingys.  I like macs, I use macs, I'm not a zealous fanboy. Never used Vista though, seems a bit flashy and rubbish to be honest.

+1
I like my mac but I am also not a fanboy as such
I do accept the analogy of custom guitars compared to off the shelf  that MDV made, but the Mac does what I need it to.
I had to use a Mac at first as none of the publishing houses would accept adverts and artwork that wasn't done on a mac (that has changed now) and none of my friends and relatives had a PC so if i wanted help etc I was going to be better off with a Mac.
For what i now use it for - web/email/dreamweaver/photoshop etc I find it covers my needs and I have not had to contend with any viruses so far since I went over to OS X

I use my girlfriend's PC with XP and it is fine apart from her having AOL on there which seems to take over
I think it is whatever you are used to.

I do feel that the fuss over the iPhone is all a bit much
A nice unit for sure but it's just a phone and a bunch of other stuff
I still use a pay as you go mobile and spend as little as £10 every 3 months as I am not that much of a mobile user.
So the calling plan for any of the "smart-phones" is an expense that I just don't need.

[badgermark]

Also a pretty cool feature is apple + alt + 3 for a full screencap, apple + alt + 4 for a draggable box, to take screen caps of anything you want. ROCK!

On my mac it's apple+shift+3 or 4 for screencaps.

Ah thats the one. I'm at work on a Dell PC and tried to remember something i've never thought about doing, darn muscle memory!

yes the iPhone is a bit much, I'd rather have an iPod touch and a good phone than one that is smudge city and means i can't text while pretending to work.

[MDV]

Mac mouses have two buttons, have for a while. Plus pressing control while clicking does the usual rmb thingys.  I like macs, I use macs, I'm not a zealous fanboy. Never used Vista though, seems a bit flashy and rubbish to be honest.

Well, I have 2 mice for my PC: one air mouse that you wave around like a wii controller, that has volume, play, pause, mute, and track skip built into it and works from further away than you can see the cursor (and with every media app that I've tried it with) and one for when the batteries on that run down or playing games (another win for PC) that has 5 buttons and a 2-D scroll wheel.

In short - mac mice have 2 buttons now? Well they're still as far behind as they were before, if not more.

Jonathon, yeah, AOL is horrible, horrible software. I try to advise people away from it for both that reason and the criminal, literally, business practices.

I've heard all the arguments, and theres nothing a mac can do that a PC cant, the difference is purely in the know-how of the user.

Plus all the supposed benefits of OSX: Vista can run OSX natively as well, and OSX is just pretty UNIX anyway, which any PC can also run. Again, the only advantage, if you think its an advantage, is that the mac does it out of the box.

[noodleplugerine]

The benefit of Mac is simple. You can get rid of all the interface and control it via the terminal - Which is priceless, and which can't be done succesfully on any recent windows... They promised a damn redo of the cmd prompt for Vista and never bloody delivered - Ugh.

And as MDV said, its all basically Unix, and as such, all the major benefits that a Unix based system has, mac also has.

There's no point being zealous in either. XP's pretty good if you're a day-to-day user, as is Mac, neither of them are superior in anyway, and to say so is idiotic, either way, I run linux most of the time, so it makes no difference to me.




That being said, I'd never use Vista... It's very stable, and a very well designed operating system, but I don't want my PC to call home every time I do anything. Its very very unnerving, and I'm sure a perversion of human rights, but w/e.

[Roobubba]

I use both - Mac Pro and Macbook Pro at work (and on the commute, and garageband for recording practices), and a PC at home, which I mostly use for gaming.

Things I like about the Macs:
- Magsafe power connector - good innovation
- Button on the bottom to tell you how much battery life is left without switching it on - simple, but sensible!
- Decent spec - now they've switched to Intel architecture
- The fact that it's basically just Unix. I have to say I still prefer most flavours of linux, but there are some things that apple do well, like the window switching features.

Things I dislike about the Macs:
- Mac Pro is too slow due to fully buffered DIMMs. 8Gigs of ram is fine, but at least design a platform that can accept non-buffered DIMMS (same problem exists on Skulltrail).
- No right mouse button on the laptop - this is a HUGE problem for me on the bus. I need to be able to right mouse and scroll and also do other clicks at the same time, which you can do fine with a mouse, but is simply not possible to do without. When I'm on the bus, I often don't have room to use a mouse. It's a long journey every day, and I like to do a lot of my structure refinement and model building (we're talking 3D protein structure here) on the way, but all because of Apple's STUPID stance on the right mouse button on the laptop, I find this very difficult to do. GG Apple :/
- Broken X11. Now fixed, but why did I have to do this?

Why I use a PC at home:
Gaming, and the flexibility to build a machine that will outclass a Mac on the programs I use for a fraction of the cost.
I run XP, because I find I really dislike some aspects of Vista (which I have on another laptop, borrowed from my previous job (I still do some contract work, it's not stolen!))

Oh, and my macs have crashed more than my XP machine, and the vista machine has crashed about the same as the macs.

Give me the games I play on linux, and I'm out of this silly apple/microsoft game for good!

Roo

[noodleplugerine]

The spec argument aganinst mac is a little unfair, because although they are lower spec at the same price, its also a faster and lighter operating system (or it used to be, no idea how big recent builds are).

[badgermark]

Roo just do the two finger command click. it's amazing.

MDV I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with your waggly, 99 buttoned mouse. Two buttons work nicely for me, and keyboard shortcuts are much quicker than moving my hand from my keyboard to click pause on my mouse.

Personally I couldn't care less about what other people think about the machine i choose to buy and use, I like my Mac better than I like comparable MS based machines.  THIS is a pretty good article about the price difference. Sure you can have a sub £400 laptop or pc, but not to the same specs as a mac.

[MDV]

Badgermark - my point is simply that interface technology for PCs is still way, way ahead of macs.

And, its not easier to use keyboard shortcuts when your keyboard is on the other side of the room. This is basically a remote-control-mouse. No keyboard needed, no proximity to the box needed. You just need to be able to see the monitor.

Anywho, this has decended into a gay little mac Vs PC thing, just for asking a simple question about windows.

I feel no need to debate this (why I did at all I have no idea)

I'm outtathisthread.

Bye!

[noodleplugerine]

Roo just do the two finger command click. it's amazing.

MDV I'm not sure who you're trying to impress with your waggly, 99 buttoned mouse. Two buttons work nicely for me, and keyboard shortcuts are much quicker than moving my hand from my keyboard to click pause on my mouse.

Personally I couldn't care less about what other people think about the machine i choose to buy and use, I like my Mac better than I like comparable MS based machines.  THIS is a pretty good article about the price difference. Sure you can have a sub £400 laptop or pc, but not to the same specs as a mac.

That article is 100% nonsense.

Apples ARE more expensive than PCs, there's no way you can hide that. Even Mac fanboys will agree.

They've taken a ridiculously overpriced laptop to compare to a Mac. Hell, I could do my own comparison if you want...

Macbook Pro - £1299
2.4ghz Core 2 Duo
2gb Ram
200gb HD
Nvidia Geforce 8600M GT with 256mb dedicated SDRam.

Now, in the PC Laptop market, you can get similar spec laptops for under £800.

For example, a product from Sony, with a P8400, 3gb ram, and a similar if not better graphics card comes under £800.

And if anyone mentions build quality etc, the macbooks are made by sony last time I checked, so that's not an issue.