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dave_mc

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2008, 02:43:45 PM »
Sorry, Dave, I just can't let you get away with that one!! Maybe if you look at each atom of the ball and the wall individually, you could make some argument on a QM-scale,

yeah, that's kind of what i was doing. :)

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2008, 06:55:48 PM »
The research has been done, and the system has been deemed safe.

The collisions which are being researched happen all the time all over the universe, sometimes in much larger scales, sometimes close to earth, and we're not dead yet.
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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2008, 08:43:26 PM »
Extremely unlikey, and besides, balck holes evaporate (hawking radiation) and the smaller they are the faster they do it, so if there is one then it wont last long enough to do anything.

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2008, 02:48:09 PM »
i see they have some web cams up
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2008, 02:51:58 PM »
:lol:
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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2008, 03:57:28 PM »
i see they have some web cams up
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2008, 04:36:00 PM »
i see they have some web cams up
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Superb!

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2008, 06:08:55 PM »
If this had been going on in my day, I have said that I was unable to submit homework as it had mysteriously disappeared into a back hole. But it wouldn't have occurred in my day because Mr Stephenson was testing his new locomotive and they hadn't gotten around to all this black hole malarky at that point.
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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2008, 09:59:35 PM »
All a load of media hype if you ask me.

Not sure where i read it (might've been the Scotsman) but in India a teenage girl got so scared about this black hole nonsense that she killed herself.
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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2008, 01:28:24 AM »
Really? Wow, some people are silly! Even if you knew you're gonna die in a black hole, then live your life to the fullest while you can. Don't beat the damn thing to it! Jeez! :?

Well, they turned the first beam on recently. Second beam is the one to watch. Old Nostradamus told us all to get out of Geneva when the positive beam was turned on, so I guess.... let robots run the experiment?  :lol:

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2008, 03:11:06 AM »
All a load of media hype if you ask me.

Not sure where i read it (might've been the Scotsman) but in India a teenage girl got so scared about this black hole nonsense that she killed herself.

I heard that too!

Crazy stuff... I don't see why she didn't just wait...
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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2008, 11:12:29 AM »
so if they don't destroy the world they may just create an "Event Horizon" situation and create literally Hell on Earth.

What happens during this "event horizon"?

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2008, 11:33:01 AM »
so if they don't destroy the world they may just create an "Event Horizon" situation and create literally Hell on Earth.

What happens during this "event horizon"?

The event horizon is a conceptual ring around the black hole, that if you go beyond it, the forces will be too strong for you to ever come back. In other words, there's a distance from the black hole that if you go beyond, you'll be doomed.
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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2008, 01:10:04 PM »
so if they don't destroy the world they may just create an "Event Horizon" situation and create literally Hell on Earth.

What happens during this "event horizon"?

The event horizon is a conceptual ring around the black hole, that if you go beyond it, the forces will be too strong for you to ever come back. In other words, there's a distance from the black hole that if you go beyond, you'll be doomed.

Not exactly. It's the point around a wormhole or black hole where, basically, things would vanish. Where the escape velocity is faster than the speed of light so the insie is invisable, or well, black.. You be too close to get away LONG before that.

I think umpteen scientific groups define it differently though, plus Event Horizon can apply to all sorts of different celestial bodies and events and the entire universe itself.

Or that's my unerstanding, which is only very basic, to be fair.

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Re: CERN's Large Hadron Collider: Are we doomed?
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2008, 03:41:55 PM »
So we'd vanish? Would we be crushed or something?

I find it fascinating