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B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« on: September 04, 2008, 11:03:16 AM »
From what I've read I shall probably go for Nailbomb but I've got an 8 string being made by Conklin (2 humbucker setup) and am wondering if any of you guys would suggest I get anything else? It's mainly going to be used for piercing leads, big chords and not so much on clean (Piezos go to a seperate output so shall be using them mainly).

Thanks guys!

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 12:18:34 PM »
I've had Nailbombs, and while I like them a lot, I wouldn't describe them as piercing. They have a lot of crunch and grind for heavy riffing, but for piercing leads you probably want something more like a Miracle Man or a Holy Diver.
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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 12:22:06 PM »
From what I've read I shall probably go for Nailbomb but I've got an 8 string being made by Conklin (2 humbucker setup) and am wondering if any of you guys would suggest I get anything else? It's mainly going to be used for piercing leads, big chords and not so much on clean (Piezos go to a seperate output so shall be using them mainly).

Thanks guys!

Hey Sam,

I'd ask Tim if I were you, the man knows his stuff like no other.

Nailbombs probably wouldn't be a bad choice at all, but there's always the possibility of dropping the output a little for extra clarity. Crawlers could be a possibility..

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008, 12:25:11 PM »
Maybe the piercing-ness is just what'll come with having a high A in the first place... when I talk of piercing I mean like how hard hit this sounds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERbiT0xzLRY

Skip to 1:11, rubbish video but it's the only place the whole songs already uploaded on/good example of high A screaming :D

I love his tone there, it'll be used for huge chords mainly though, crunch is gooood, I'm really a fan of 'biteyness' in pickups too.

Hey Nolly! What does dropping the output imply on the negative side of things then in context of tone? Obviously it's good for adding clarity but?..

I'm not very good at the technical sides of things unfortunatley but am learning as ever :)

*edit* listening to that again I guess it's quite a warm tone and the piercingness purley is how damn high it is.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2008, 12:30:24 PM by Philosoful »

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008, 12:51:42 PM »
you gain clarity, you lose a bit of compression and you will have to push the amp gain a little further to get the overdrive you want. other than that, thats all with possibly a bit of bass loss since the less coil turns you have the less bassy the pickup (or at least thats what i have gathered).

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008, 12:55:38 PM »
Hey Nolly! What does dropping the output imply on the negative side of things then in context of tone? Obviously it's good for adding clarity but?..

I'm not very good at the technical sides of things unfortunatley but am learning as ever :)

*edit* listening to that again I guess it's quite a warm tone and the piercingness purley is how damn high it is.

Dropping the output would lose you a bit of the massive chunk you get from the high-output pickups. Obviously, your amp won't be hit with as large an input signal, so you'll probably find that you have to compensate with more gain. Given your amp, I don't think that'll be a problem though!

I agree with your *edit* - the piercingness is just down to how high the note is. Adding super-bright pickups to a high A will result in very harsh and thin tone. I'll stick with my suggestion of Nailbombs or Crawlers. Certainly I'd be looking at the alnico V pickups, and steering clear of the ceramic ones.

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008, 01:16:54 PM »
Yeah, I see what you meant now, too. I just meant the Nailbomb's not what springs to mind when someone says "screaming leads", which is obviously not what you meant :) Nailbombs would do those sort of tones easily, imo
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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 06:18:24 PM »
What's the bodywood of this guitar? If it's all mahogany it might not be clear enough with Nailbombs and if it's alder or maple it might be too bright on the extreme highs. Just a few things to consider.

If it has more of a balanced wood choice (limba, or mahogany+maple) I think Nailbombs are indeed the way to go.
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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 09:19:14 PM »
It's a soft maple top and birdseye maple top (hard maple).

By the way, thanks everyone for being so helpful+detailed, really appreciated!

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 08:28:07 PM »
Another nile forumite!

I'm D Man over there.

Welcome

I believe miracle man bridge, painkiller or cold sweat neck are what you seek.

MM bridge is gonna give the most cutting highs for lead. I think (just "think", dont "know") that it has the highest resonant peak of any BK (at least that I've tried), and its got a tonne of highs.

The PK is the most aggressive and sharpest neck BK (its the only ceramic) and the CS neck has a string high mid hump that can help with the piercing with the appropriate EQing.

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 08:30:58 PM »
Seriously.  Do you have enough fingers for 8 strings?
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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2008, 05:14:43 PM »
I have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs, don't know about you? :lol:

Another nile forumite!

I'm D Man over there.

Welcome

I believe miracle man bridge, painkiller or cold sweat neck are what you seek.

MM bridge is gonna give the most cutting highs for lead. I think (just "think", dont "know") that it has the highest resonant peak of any BK (at least that I've tried), and its got a tonne of highs.

The PK is the most aggressive and sharpest neck BK (its the only ceramic) and the CS neck has a string high mid hump that can help with the piercing with the appropriate EQing.

Hey man!

I seem to remember people by their display pictures so shall lookey next time and thanks for your imput.

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 01:28:30 PM »
Haha, hello Sam!
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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 03:29:23 PM »
 :lol: Hello Mister Hairy.

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Re: B,E,A,D,G,B,E,A 8 Recommendations?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 04:29:38 PM »
I have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs, don't know about you? :lol:

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