EFFECTS

[Bob Johnson]

HJM, if you're using Fender amplification you've got to have something to push it; (B J jumps back into foxhole and and tightens straps on tin hat)

[HJM]

Agreed - that's what the Analogman King of Tone and Tubescreamers are for!  :P

[Kilby]

Sulk,

I just want to get a job back at home in Belfast, start work on analogue some amp emulators again

Unless one of the luthors around here want a trainee that will work for coffee (my shift pattern gives me one week in 3 off)

HINT HINT

[Jp.]

HJM what Fender amps are you reffering to?

When I get the rare opportunity to play though a Bassman or an old "Twin" I need a TS-9. But those times are really rare.

Nowadays I mostly get my hands on newer Blues Deville and Hot Rod series.

I pretty much retire all my OD pedals when using a Deville. The Drive and More Drive (What a stupid name ,but hey) give all the drive I need.

[Jp.]

Anyway getting back on topic as such....

Try an ME-50 the're really good. Little bit fiddely for live Cover band work but much better than most stuff around.

As for home practicing I cannot give a bigger recommendations to a Boss BR-864 or the cd burning version th BR-900CDR

Its a good phrase trainer, 8 track recorder, practicing tool, mobile adlib amp modeler that can be D.I. straight into a P.A. It does so much EASILY.

It also has modelling for typical situations that can be trimmed to taste. Which is absolutely invaluable for novices. There is no point have 50 bazillion effects if you have no Idea how to use them.

The BR-864 will let you select an amp model with a range of effects setup for a specific situation, Trim the sound till its close. Then you have an idea of what you need in the "real" world to attain the tone you want.

[HJM]

HJM what Fender amps are you reffering to?

When I get the rare opportunity to play though a Bassman or an old "Twin" I need a TS-9. But those times are really rare.

Nowadays I mostly get my hands on newer Blues Deville and Hot Rod series.

I pretty much retire all my OD pedals when using a Deville. The Drive and More Drive (What a stupid name ,but hey) give all the drive I need.

I've got a Super Reverb :P

[Gary]

I've got a HRD and I can get near enough as much drive as I want from the clean channel. I was using a Java Boost for a while but I found the 'more drive' option sounds pretty similar so the pedal's on the shelf for the moment. When I get the chance I'm going to experiment with the Java Boost into a stock TS9 (another pedal sitting in it's box) to see what happens.

In recent times I've got really fussy about what goes on my pedal board - at present it's just TU2 tuner, Keeley Compressor and Boss CE5 chorus. I play in a covers band and I've come to realise that just playing with the volume knob gets me surprisingly close to most of the sounds I'm after.

HJM, I'm interested in your fender setup as you have the Keeley compressor (which I've got), the Beano Boost (which I believe is similar to the Java), a Clone Chorus (which I'm thinking of getting) and a King of Tone (which I've considered in the past). How do you find these work together and what sort of tones do they give you - especially the King of Tone?

[HJM]

The KOT gives a really dynamic break up, it's like a very refined blues driver, but better.  There's no pronounced mids, very littly compression. Works very well with a good tube amp as you get the natural amp response on top of the pedal response, as you pick you get drive from the pedal and compression from the amp.  The clean setting thickens up my Super Reverb in the midrange, makes it sound like it's louder than it is.

I use the Clone to give me a leslie type effect, although it will do some great chorus type tones, like Gilmours tones on Dark Side and Andy Summers type strat chorus with the Keeley Comp. Works very well with the KOT.

The Comp I don't use very often with the KOT - I find it destroys the interaction between the KOT and amp, but sounds great for fusion leads with the TS9 and Clone.

The Beano I use with the Marshalls, I prefer it to my Java the mids seam stronger and clearer, I'm going to sell my Java Boost following it's eviction!

The only sound I can't get with the Fender rig is the one I get with my Marshalls....deliberate that!

[schmendict]

I wonder if what would happen if you bought every single effects pedal, distortion pedal etc in the world! Connected them all up, then turned every single knob up to the max, pushed every button and had two 700 watt speakers at your disposal....turned up to full volume.

[rinse_master]

I wonder if what would happen if you bought every single effects pedal, distortion pedal etc in the world! Connected them all up, then turned every single knob up to the max, pushed every button and had two 700 watt speakers at your disposal....turned up to full volume.

I guess there would be a lot of noise, feedback, crackling... and it would be loud![/u]

[Brow]

I wonder if what would happen if you bought every single effects pedal, distortion pedal etc in the world! Connected them all up, then turned every single knob up to the max, pushed every button and had two 700 watt speakers at your disposal....turned up to full volume.

It'd probably be like that scene in Back To The Future where Michael J Fox plugs into that amp and gets blown half way across the room :D

[schmendict]

Sweet....
Hey guys, i got an idea!  :lol:

[chrisola]

use Johnny Macs amp to run them through... or maybe a 350w Mode4!