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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2008, 05:17:33 PM »
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

Don't think there were any solos on the first 2 Mnemic albums, and I think that's some of the best metal ever written.
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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2008, 05:59:17 PM »
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

Stoner metal

Like Clutch and Orange Goblin and Down and Sleep and Fu Manchu and QOTSA and Bongzilla and Weedeater and all those other bands with loads of solos?

Ahh i've been caught out, sort of. I like stoner metal, but that also has a lot of soloage in it unless you mean extreme shitee like Electric Wizard, i can't listen to that though. But bands like Down and The Sword love a bit of soloage in their music.

Electric Wizard have solos. In more or less every song. And aren't really extreme  :? They're just a modern Sabbath. Who I will finally see in December, provided they don't cancel AGAIN.

Do you more mean things like Sunn 0)))? That would make more sense, although I don't think of drone as at all metal, it has a lot more to do with noise and dark ambient. Ohh, genre-tastic.

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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2008, 06:43:22 PM »
Judas Priest - "Beyond the Realms of Death"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVTDl8oiJBs

Ozzy Osbourne - "Revelation (Mother Earth)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcQ9Rs487o

There are dozens of other great candidates by the likes of Michael Schenker, Queensryche, GnR, Opeth, Iron Maiden and so on, but these are the first two that always occur in my mind when someone asks what my favourite solo is. Gary Moore has ripped some great solos in his time as well.

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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2008, 06:50:09 PM »
I'm afraid no amount of explaining will help on this. Statements like this:


They just generally sound like a power metal band covering death metal songs to me.

...have always, and will always strike me as nonsensical. The idea that there is some sort of objective checklist of features which defines what sub-genre a band is really irritates me.


And specifically the "trying to be a [insert ridiculous sub-genre here] band" part of the original comment. I know you've already tried to explain that, but it seems what you really meant was "they share some characteristics with another band or band(s), whilst not sounding exactly the same as said band(s)". But for some reason, you've slapped some genres on to the argument and turned that into something negative. As if the fact that they happen to straddle 2 of your neat sub-genres somehow shows that they've attempted and failed to be one 'kind' of band, and so are in fact another 'kind' of band.

Do you see what I mean? :lol:

I really don't 'get' the whole thing.

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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2008, 07:19:35 PM »
See if Crass were to decide to reform and be a funk band. I imagine it'd be the same result, a bunch of folk who really only know how to do one type of music trying to be something else, I just imagine it would always sound jarring, try hard and well, a bit insincere. That's what I find if I listen to Necrophagist.

That's as best as I can communicate what I mean. Oddly enough, I've said the exact same thing on extreme metal forums "A death metal band trying to be power metal" and folk have got exactly what I mean - and often agreed - straight off the bat  :lol:

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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2008, 08:20:30 PM »
Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

Stoner metal

Like Clutch and Orange Goblin and Down and Sleep and Fu Manchu and QOTSA and Bongzilla and Weedeater and all those other bands with loads of solos?

Ahh i've been caught out, sort of. I like stoner metal, but that also has a lot of soloage in it unless you mean extreme shiteee like Electric Wizard, i can't listen to that though. But bands like Down and The Sword love a bit of soloage in their music.

Electric Wizard have solos. In more or less every song. And aren't really extreme  :? They're just a modern Sabbath. Who I will finally see in December, provided they don't cancel AGAIN.

Do you more mean things like Sunn 0)))? That would make more sense, although I don't think of drone as at all metal, it has a lot more to do with noise and dark ambient. Ohh, genre-tastic.

Well obviously Down have SOME solos but alot of their stuff (latest stuff mainly) has no solos. Pure riffage

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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2008, 08:25:13 PM »
I quite liked Downs second album. The only one of theirs i had.
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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2008, 08:37:44 PM »
I still love the Under a Glass Moon solo a LOT.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVQP108eM4

4:50 he kicks it in

though the guitar is quiet in this one...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qbFnm5fkB_s louder, but no video! damn
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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2008, 09:55:09 PM »
See if Crass were to decide to reform and be a funk band. I imagine it'd be the same result, a bunch of folk who really only know how to do one type of music trying to be something else, I just imagine it would always sound jarring, try hard and well, a bit insincere. That's what I find if I listen to Necrophagist.



That makes much more sense to me. :)

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That's as best as I can communicate what I mean. Oddly enough, I've said the exact same thing on extreme metal forums "A death metal band trying to be power metal" and folk have got exactly what I mean - and often agreed - straight off the bat  :lol:

Nothing odd about that- metalheads are obsessed with compartmentalising genres!

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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2008, 10:57:25 PM »
I still love the Under a Glass Moon solo a LOT.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVQP108eM4

4:50 he kicks it in

though the guitar is quiet in this one...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qbFnm5fkB_s louder, but no video! damn

I've allways felt it was a little random :p
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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2008, 11:22:47 PM »
The randomness is part of why it's cool though. Besides, he has to play like that to minimise casualties ;)
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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2008, 09:36:09 AM »
Favourite solo for me changes from time to time. Currently it is Zappa's solo on Muffin Man.
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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2008, 11:22:41 PM »
Favourite solo for me changes from time to time. Currently it is Zappa's solo on Muffin Man.

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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2008, 02:25:38 PM »
More MSG - this time into the Arena (1981)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGY0KEGVK6Q

Lots of solos but the one that gets me every time starts at just after 4.25 - makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
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Re: Epic solos
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2008, 02:38:49 PM »
More MSG - this time into the Arena (1981)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGY0KEGVK6Q

Lots of solos but the one that gets me every time starts at just after 4.25 - makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up

I can't play the video in work, but if it's the solo I'm thinking of it's an absolute classic.  Not just a guitar solo, it's a proper piece of music in its own right.
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