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roland_rat

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Laney L20H
« on: October 12, 2008, 08:55:28 PM »
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone as tried a Laney L20H ?  I have not heard them but am curious.  Has anyone got one or tried one? Are they good, bad or rubbish?


Cheers guys
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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 08:57:46 PM »
I know nothing about the amp, but your avatar makes it difficult to for me to take anything that you post seriously. I just can't get past it. :lol:
« Last Edit: October 12, 2008, 09:04:32 PM by kellar »
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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2008, 09:01:05 PM »
Adam.M just bought one. I'm sure he'll chip in soon with a comment soon.

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2008, 09:17:22 PM »
 Kellar,

Glad you like it. :lol:    Roland rat used to be a puppet that presented children's tv in the early 90's in Britain. 
You might me right about not taking me seriously.

I know nothing about the amp, but your avatar makes it difficult to for me to take anything that you post seriously. I just can't get past it. :lol:
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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2008, 09:24:16 PM »
I've played one.  Nice amp.  Looks great in that blue!  :)

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2008, 07:06:32 AM »
I owned one for a short time, but decided that I really didn't like it after all.
  It is a VERY vintage sounding amp indeed, to my ears. Rather loose (as in "not tight"), and the distortion had an unpleasant graininess to my ears. Now I like a bit of graininess, like a Plexi produces, but I did not like this amp.
   Very little clean headroom too, if that's at all important for you.

As always, however, what we like in an amp is entirely subjective. I know other people love them.

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 12:30:03 PM »
I've own an L20H since the start of the year, and my experiences have been the total opposite of Hamfist's. To my ears, it has lovely warm cleans, with no want for extra headroom, and a very smooth overdrive (though not a huge amount of gain on tap). It is fairly loose-sounding, but no looser than the JCMs and ACs I've played - definitely not as tight as a high gain solid-state amp though. As with anything, like Hamfist says, it's totally subjective, so I'd try one out before you buy :)
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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2008, 01:01:14 PM »
I've own an L20H since the start of the year, and my experiences have been the total opposite of Hamfist's. To my ears, it has lovely warm cleans, with no want for extra headroom, and a very smooth overdrive (though not a huge amount of gain on tap). It is fairly loose-sounding, but no looser than the JCMs and ACs I've played - definitely not as tight as a high gain solid-state amp though. As with anything, like Hamfist says, it's totally subjective, so I'd try one out before you buy :)

Yeah, I've always wondered whether the one I had was a duffer. I only ever played that one.  I tried various different tubes in it (pre and power) so that wasn't the problem, but it could easily have been something else.

The only negative comments on the www about the L20H are generally written by me, so there must be quite a few people who are very happy with them.

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 05:43:07 PM »
i've tried the 5 watter, and the 20 watter with the four 10" speakers... i liked them, but felt they were maybe a bit dear. also was a bit annoyed there wasn't a 20 watter in the 1x12 format too, not that i was ever seriously entertaining getting one, but if i were, that'd have been the one i'd have gone for. :lol:

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 06:33:26 PM »
Yeah I've just gotten one, and it sounds absolutely superb through the greenbacks i just got, the amp really likes greenbacks a lot.

I'd definitely suggest it as a good home and stage amp, sounds real nice on low volume. really really nice.

I just prefer the feel of Class A/B amps and EL34's in general, so I'm considering letting mine go. Bought mine on a whim and glad i did, probably the 4th Class A amp but A/B just feels more like home to me.

And i have to agree they are a bit pricey in the shops, but second hand they're not too expensive.


One more thing - and why i'm only -just- about considering letting it go - the head version is VERY light! compared to this 100watt JCM 800 it's as light as a feather, perfect head to go with a 1x12 or 2x12 combo or even take places and use other peoples cab's! also sounds better than the Marshall on low volume, which is where it counts for me at the moment.
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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2008, 07:11:22 PM »
Cheers for all the  information guys.  Sound like its worth me  going in a a shop and giving one a try.


Thanks again
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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2008, 07:12:47 PM »
I agree with Hamfist, although I only tried it in a shop. Was hard work to get a smooth drive sound.

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 11:40:30 AM »
I was thinking of writing a review for the forum, then saw your post, so here goes...

I bought one of these a month or so ago, along with the matching 2x12 cab, and I've now done a few gigs with it. My previous amp was a Roland JC 120. The Lionheart is my first valve amp, but moving to valves from a JC 120 isn't such a great leap as from another SS amp, as the Roland is pretty warm despite being solid state. However, the JC 120 is bloody loud, and I couldn't even have it on 1 at gigs, below which it gets a bit muffled. So I decided to look in to a smaller amp, and having always hankered after something with valves I asked advice from a guy I know.

He runs a recording studio/rehearsal room complex in which he has mostly Laneys and Marshalls. He has 40+ years of experience with amps, and is also in a band himself. He also plays a semi-acoustic, like my 335. In short - I value his opinion. He loves the Lionheart, and recommended it to me. As he had two but only used one, I bought one from him at a good price. My chain is now 335 (with BK Mules) > EH Black Finger > Mojo Hand Mule > George Dennis volume/tremolo > BOSS DD3 > Lionheart.

For me, this amp is wonderful. I don't want hi-gain, I want a nice vintage sound, warm, sparkly cleans, crispness, twang, growl and attitude when I need it. My band plays what I refer to as "indie-blues", and the Lionheart is perfect. Yesterday I just sat in front of the amp strumming a chord, and listening to the harmonics as the guitar rang on, strummed another chord and listened ... - it was lush, rich, full - and that was with the volume on 1!

Is it loud enough? Absolutely. I'm conscious of having this thing on 2 in the house because of the neighbours. (I think the closed-back cab really makes a difference.) At gigs, I can have it on around 5 or 6 and not get told off by the sound man - it's clean at that volume, but has a rich attitude about it when I pick harder: it's extremely responsive to picking weight. It also takes pedals well. Tone-wise, I have the bass on 5, mid 8, treble 7, and the tone control on 7; reverb is on 5. To my ears this gives a nice compromise between clarity and mellowness. Set the tone control at 9-10, and there's a jump in the higher frequencies.

The controls are relatively simple. I can see people feeling the tone and reverb controls don't do much, but I've found that you get more perceived reverb with the tone down below 7 than when the tone's set higher. Besides, this amp's about subtlety and taste rather than being in yer face.

I mainly use the clean channel, sometimes with the Mule to add grit, and use the drive channel when I want a loud boost. The drive channel has two controls: "drive" and "drive volume". Setting a low drive and loud drive volume will give you a Bluesbreaker type sound - a nice open, crispy output-valve distortion, but not bags of compression or sustain. More drive and a lower drive volume makes the preamp valves work harder and gives a tighter, more punchy rock sound, greater sustain. I have the drive on 7, drive volume on 3+, which sets the drive at a slightly higher volume than the clean, which is what I want.

I haven't tried it with a high drive and high drive volume, come to think of it - I might have to give that a go just to see what it's like!

To me, as someone who likes a vintage sound and wants a superb clean sound, and to be able to hear the guitar rather than the fuzz, this amp is fantastic. It's got four EL84s and three 12ax7s. Count 'em, go on. If you want a more rock sound then you might want something with more gain on tap. Not me. I now have an amp which I have had to learn to play as much as I play my guitar, and that's got to be a good thing.

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« Last Edit: October 26, 2008, 01:29:51 PM by MartinS »

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2008, 11:52:10 AM »
It's got four EL34s and three 12ax7s

I think you mean EL84s  ;)

Nice review!

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Re: Laney L20H
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 01:30:21 PM »
So I did! I'm always getting my 3s and my 8s mixed up. Duly corrected.

Thanks.