bridge pickup for Dean CFH

[MDV]

You just wanna argue with me, dontcha! ;)

I'm just saying what Tim told me on the phone once when I was ordering my sinner. He was in iced earth for a while!

man, you're going paranoid  :lol:
I'm not arguing, I'm just saying he's not using anything different from Les Pauls live
he has a lot of guitars, but definitely he suffers of chronic Lester Polsfuss obsessive-compulsive disorder  :crazy2:

Oh, I dont doubt you, I', just suggesting that he uses more that that in the studio, or in general finds he can get his sort of sound with more than that.

I'm niot parano

WHO SAID THAT?

shite, they found me....gotta go!

[ericsabbath]

Oh, I dont doubt you, I', just suggesting that he uses more that that in the studio, or in general finds he can get his sort of sound with more than that.

I'm niot parano

WHO SAID THAT?

shitee, they found me....gotta go!

lol
Jon Schaffer is even geeker about guitar stuff than us

I just found this interview about the last last album and he talks a lot about his signature pickup
he talks a lot about his tastes for pickups

http://www.wcrclips.com/clips/interview_040308.mp3

if his pickup wasn't even more expensive than BKP's, I'd definitely try one
but I don't even have enough guitars for that  :(

[CJ]

i'm fairly certain all 3 of my guitars are mahogany.

tim's response-

"Schaffer uses low output humbuckers and extremely hi gain amps(Larry Amps)-Black Dog, Riff Raff and even VHII. For the Dean I would go to the Black Dog then set the amp up with as much bottom end as possible and lots of hi end presence, don't scoop the mids out but don't boast them either."

[ericsabbath]

i'm fairly certain all 3 of my guitars are mahogany.

tim's response-

"Schaffer uses low output humbuckers and extremely hi gain amps(Larry Amps)-Black Dog, Riff Raff and even VHII. For the Dean I would go to the Black Dog then set the amp up with as much bottom end as possible and lots of hi end presence, don't scoop the mids out but don't boast them either."

nice
that's what I imagined
did you ask if he boosts the amp input?

[CJ]

i'm fairly certain all 3 of my guitars are mahogany.

tim's response-

"Schaffer uses low output humbuckers and extremely hi gain amps(Larry Amps)-Black Dog, Riff Raff and even VHII. For the Dean I would go to the Black Dog then set the amp up with as much bottom end as possible and lots of hi end presence, don't scoop the mids out but don't boast them either."

nice
that's what I imagined
did you ask if he boosts the amp input?

no i didn't, probably because i'm not sure what that means. ha, sorry, but how do you boost the amp input?

and i did find one metal clip of the black dog, lucky for me, playing iced earth. sounds exactly what i'm after.


EDIT: wow, sorry, i just woke up...not quite thinking well yet. of course i know what boosting the input means. i've got a wylde overdrive that works nicely, i'll ask tim what he thinks.

[ericsabbath]

by using a booster  :lol:

where's that clip?

EDIT:
just found the clip
pretty nice sounding, but missing tightness and picking attack
maybe the wylde should fix this?
I never had a medium low output pickup in the bridge position to try with this pedal
or maybe Tim can wind a tighter version of it?

[CJ]

haha, yeah did you see my edit? it was a late night.

i asked tim if he recommended using a booster, and for any additional tips. i'll see what he says. do you think i should ask him about winding it tighter? does he usually do something like that?

[CJ]

so heres a thought: i'm looking for something very tight, but low power, correct? well, my gibson xr-1 (LP) has a factory coil tap switch on it. how do you think i'd make out putting my miracle man in there and then just using the coil tap to drop down the output?

EDIT: ah, one problem, even if that would be a good idea- my miracle man has braided two conductor wiring. there's no way i could get the coil tap to work with that is there...?

[ericsabbath]

a coil tapped miracle man will sound like a very trebly single coil, not a PAFF  :lol:

[CJ]

ah, well what do i know. it was a thought. if it makes any difference, i believe the switch on mine cuts out some power, not splits it to one coil. but i'm sure you're still correct.

does anyone know if my dean bridge spacing is the same as my gibsons' bridge spacing would be? is the dean difference because of the FR?

[Philly Q]

anyone know if my dean bridge spacing is the same as my gibsons' bridge spacing would be? is the dean difference because of the FR?

Well you could just try measuring it, but I'd guess the Dean with the FR will have spacing at the bridge of about 54mm and the Gibson will probably be about 51mm.

[Will]

Your Gibson does split the coil. Also reduces output aswell

[CJ]

Your Gibson does split the coil. Also reduces output aswell

does it? oh well. i believe you're right, i always get confused because its called a coil tap and not a split.

how big of a difference will there be soundwise if i used the wrong spacing in a guitar? my problem is this: i have enough money for one pickup, and i currently own one BKP. i want a BKP in my dimeslime, but i definitely want to use the xr-1 for iced earth type stuff. so i was going to put a new black dog in the xr-1, and put my miracle man in my dimeslime, but its spaced for my gibson V.

[Will]

A coil split is a coil tap, but a coil tap isn't a coil split :P

Why not keep the Dirty Fingers, surely they have the aggression for iced earth?
I had mine with a trem on it, and the 50 mm spacing made no difference.

There was a time when humbuckers were all 50mm :O apparently it was called the 70s :?
you'll be fine ;)

[CJ]

A coil split is a coil tap, but a coil tap isn't a coil split :P

Why not keep the Dirty Fingers, surely they have the aggression for iced earth?
I had mine with a trem on it, and the 50 mm spacing made no difference.

There was a time when humbuckers were all 50mm :O apparently it was called the 70s :?
you'll be fine ;)

yeah what i'm leaning toward now is just keeping the dirty fingers for the IE stuff- they're probably about the same output level.

philly, yeah i will eventually measure it... i just don't have my guitar here with me at college so i'm trying to figure out all my options now before i go home.


ok... so i guess i've got new plans now. the xr-1 for IE stuff. so i guess i'm just going to be going with heavy as hell for the dimeslime. well... warpig would be the obvious choice. but i like to run my amp with a LOT of gain. so would i be better off going with a lower powered pickup? or should i be alright running the warpig through a hot amp?