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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2008, 10:27:04 PM »
That is nice Johnny, but that natural finish is really not my thing. I also prefer the black Korina over the white (from what I have seen so far) as the black has some really nice characteristics and markings. The white seems a bit plain. :D
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2008, 12:20:46 AM »
Well done, Fernando.

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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2008, 05:21:32 AM »
How often does Warmoth update their showcase items?

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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2008, 08:11:01 AM »
How often does Warmoth update their showcase items?

Fernando can probably give a more specific answer, but they seem to update it pretty frequently - several times a week - albeit only a couple of items at a time.  I guess they're generally concentrating on custom orders rather than making random pieces for the Showcase which might sit there for months.

When something is sold, it disappears from the Showcase immediately, so no worries on that front.
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2008, 01:42:05 PM »
Thanks Philly Q. :D

I found THE body I was looking for a few weeks ago. It was exactly what I wanted down to every spec.
I went to buy it the next day and it was gone. :(
So, instead of jumping into an impulse build (this Warmoth thing has REALLY got me itching to build one) I have convinced myself to be patient and watch the Showcase for a few weeks, maybe something special will pop up or I will find something that spurs a few new ideas. It certainly isn't easy though. :lol:

I have also decided that it is much better to buy the body, make sure it is exactly what I want, and THEN order a neck that will match up with it nicely. The other day I had the entire order form filled out but a lot of questions remained. It seems easier to do it a piece at a time.  :D
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2008, 01:48:29 PM »
This is a black korina Warmoth Mockingbird with a wenge/ebony neck.  It has nailbombs on it (the bridge has double screw coils),  and an LFR trem.  It also has a 6-way varitone like an original BC Rich. The mark around the top left is a reflection from the lampshade.   I put Sperzels on it and no lock nut.
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2008, 03:14:24 PM »
There is no more (or never had and I remember wrong) price on Warmoth, but I think it's the same as Flame Koa and Macassar Ebony at least... Yes, it's very expensive... How much they quoted you?

i was after a 1-piece ziracote bass neck.. not from warmoth - just the lumber.  i wanted perfectly quartersawn top spec stuff with it being a 1 piece neck.  This meant using wood reserved for acoustic sides.  cant remember the price i was quoted but it was enough to make it a non-starter... and i was expecting expensive when i asked

here is the solid ziracote guitar that made me want a neck blank



luckily i do have some solid mac ebony blanks that i got at a very good price

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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2008, 04:03:57 PM »
This is a black korina Warmoth Mockingbird with a wenge/ebony neck.  It has nailbombs on it (the bridge has double screw coils),  and an LFR trem.  It also has a 6-way varitone like an original BC Rich. The mark around the top left is a reflection from the lampshade.   I put Sperzels on it and no lock nut.

That wood is absolutely beautiful Phil! I am planning on something of that nature with a Tobaccoburst. :D
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2008, 07:07:21 PM »
Although this tread has drifted off into a bit of a guitar showcase I'd just like to get back to the core question. Korina as a tone wood is as good or as bad as the piece of timber you actually manage to get your hands on.

That goes goes for any type of tonewood you want to mention; you can only predict trends not absolutes. I have forty year old Honduras mahogany here that is almost twice as dense and totally different in colour to most of the stuff that is generally available today and is consequently totally different in terms of tonal qualities.

The curse and the blessing of forums is that you can gather a lot of opinion but much of that is stated in absolutes based on very small sample sizes ("my mate has one and it's great"). In guitar making there is no such thing as an absolute answer to a question on the qualities of one tonewood versus another unless you've landed a couple of tons of it from one source and you're gonna make a couple of hundred similar guitars out of it.

Probably the best (if somewhat vague) way to describe the attributes of Korina is somewhere between swamp ash and mahogany. Taking all the variables into account that's a pretty wide tolerance band.

I know this may not be very helpful but it's true.
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2008, 07:27:07 PM »
damn.. thats usually my line ;)


i do like korina though!!

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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2008, 11:44:46 PM »
Probably the best (if somewhat vague) way to describe the attributes of Korina is somewhere between swamp ash and mahogany. Taking all the variables into account that's a pretty wide tolerance band.

Especially vague since both mahogany and swamp ash are similarly vague in their own tolerances, right? :) Great post, mate. Just wondering, though, do you think there are certain woods (maybe basswood) that are a bit more consistent than others?
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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2008, 11:24:36 AM »
Just wondering, though, do you think there are certain woods (maybe basswood) that are a bit more consistent than others?

this is one of the big shills of buidling guitars... finding an appropriate piece of wood for what you want.  Basswood is still a tree that grows how mother nature intends with all the variation that suggests.  genrally i dont like basswood, but some bits have suprised me!

i think i have mentioned before on here about 2 identical neck blacks i had for phil kings black through neck sg.  Both mahogany from the same reliable source, both exactly the same size and colour.  no difference between them at all - till you picked them up.  One was literally twice the wieght of the other.  so much so i had to weight them to confirm i wasnt going mad.  Both would make very nice guitars but their wieght did alter their inherent tone and also how i used them

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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2008, 11:39:40 AM »
Although this tread has drifted off into a bit of a guitar showcase I'd just like to get back to the core question. Korina as a tone wood is as good or as bad as the piece of timber you actually manage to get your hands on.

That goes goes for any type of tonewood you want to mention; you can only predict trends not absolutes. I have forty year old Honduras mahogany here that is almost twice as dense and totally different in colour to most of the stuff that is generally available today and is consequently totally different in terms of tonal qualities.

The curse and the blessing of forums is that you can gather a lot of opinion but much of that is stated in absolutes based on very small sample sizes ("my mate has one and it's great"). In guitar making there is no such thing as an absolute answer to a question on the qualities of one tonewood versus another unless you've landed a couple of tons of it from one source and you're gonna make a couple of hundred similar guitars out of it.

Probably the best (if somewhat vague) way to describe the attributes of Korina is somewhere between swamp ash and mahogany. Taking all the variables into account that's a pretty wide tolerance band.

I know this may not be very helpful but it's true.


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Re: How is Korina as a tone wood?
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2008, 12:47:56 PM »
Yeah, thanks for that post Bob (and for getting me back on topic!).  :lol:

I do understand that there will be variations. I think that is kind of what makes it exciting though. There are so many variables involved. As a beginner, though it may not be completely reliable, I have to get a rough idea of what woods lend to what characteristics, understanding of course that different pieces (though the same type of wood) may swing the pendulum a bit in one direction or the other.
I have owned and played enough guitars to get a basic understanding of how one guitar may sound different than another, though the build may be nearly identical. I had the privilege of growing up in a very musical household with a father that had numerous guitars and that helped a lot. Recently though, I have found myself being less interested in playing and more interested in experimenting/building. One thing i have learned already: It certainly isn't any cheaper! :lol:
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