White EMG style covers?!?

[DimeZakk]

It's not one of the standard options to choose from but somewhere on this forum I saw bareknuckles with black Emg-like plastic covers and I thought that they would look awesome in white on a white flying V...

So is there any chance of getting those covers for a caibrated Warpig set?

[Will]

They aren't black plastic on BKP, its normal cover without polepiece.
You can buy a push on plastic cover from somehwere on the net

[Vilches3]

does it cost alot extra to have covers without the pole peices? and does that drastically effect the sound?

[Jonny]

does it cost alot extra to have covers without the pole peices? and does that drastically effect the sound?

Apparently it does, but it doesn't cost extra. Or at least I wouldn't think so, why charge something you don't have to put extra work into. Unless they're pre-drilled.

[Vilches3]

does it cost alot extra to have covers without the pole peices? and does that drastically effect the sound?

Apparently it does, but it doesn't cost extra. Or at least I wouldn't think so, why charge something you don't have to put extra work into. Unless they're pre-drilled.

so youd say around the same price as standard covers?

[CJ]

does it cost alot extra to have covers without the pole peices? and does that drastically effect the sound?

Apparently it does, but it doesn't cost extra. Or at least I wouldn't think so, why charge something you don't have to put extra work into. Unless they're pre-drilled.

how would the sound change?

[Jonny]

does it cost alot extra to have covers without the pole peices? and does that drastically effect the sound?

Apparently it does, but it doesn't cost extra. Or at least I wouldn't think so, why charge something you don't have to put extra work into. Unless they're pre-drilled.

how would the sound change?

It's to do with the pole pieces. I suppose if you picture it like, a wooden door. Or a door with windows. Or a door with windows and a cat flap.

Or if you want some post to answer it, I asked the very question some millenia ago..

Do pole pieces matter?

They make a subtle difference because (I believe) the shape of the magnetic field around the poles depends on the shape of the poles themselves.  And of course if they're adjustable you can compensate for slight volume differences between the strings.

[CJ]

well, i kind of assuming the sound would change, but to what effect? is it kind of the same effect a cover has over open coils, just to a further degree?

[Jonny]

well, i kind of assuming the sound would change, but to what effect? is it kind of the same effect a cover has over open coils, just to a further degree?

It's the whole string vibration thing, I can't really explain that well as I don't fully understand, but basically if the poles are exposed you can get more vibrations onto them. Which would probably, I'm not sure, give more output.

[Philly Q]

well, i kind of assuming the sound would change, but to what effect? is it kind of the same effect a cover has over open coils, just to a further degree?

For a really specific answer to that, I think it's best to talk to Tim.  With a normal covered pickup, the screw poles are exposed and the slug poles are hidden, so maybe for a fully-closed cover you'd normally use 12 slug polepieces.  Or maybe not.

The allen head polepieces contribute to the sound of the Warpig, so using different poles and/or putting a closed cover over them is going to have some effect - Tim may be able to compensate by winding the pickups a little differently.

[gwEm]

They aren't black plastic on BKP, its normal cover without polepiece.
You can buy a push on plastic cover from somehwere on the net

i brought some of these, allparts stock them. they work fine, and being plastic they only affect the sound in that you adjust the pickups less close to the strings.

[Chris Rowberry]

I would imagine it would just further what you would get from putting a cover on a open pickup. In other words i think it would just get warmer sounding maybe a little less presence. But still im sure it would not be a drastic change to the sound of the pickup.

[m0jo]

What you guys are ignoring by the way is the fact that the white covers are plastic.. which have no effect on the sound whatsoever. Getting metal covers in white will be hard...

The black EMG-like looking covers are matte black but they are metal though.. which you can clearly see.

I'm loving the NB with black cover and black allen heads, it's a symphony of evil  :twisted:


I get the fact that allen heads and slugs make a difference (even if it's just the fact that the magnet, coils and polepieces als a different distance from the strings or something).. but I wonder if there's a difference between allen heads and screws?

[Philly Q]

I get the fact that allen heads and slugs make a difference (even if it's just the fact that the magnet, coils and polepieces als a different distance from the strings or something).. but I wonder if there's a difference between allen heads and screws?

Apparently allen bolts bring out more bass than screws do.   I can't claim to understand why, presumably it's something to do with the shape of the magnetic field.

[m0jo]

Apparently allen bolts bring out more bass than screws do.   I can't claim to understand why, presumably it's something to do with the shape of the magnetic field.

Hmm, that would suggest that the degree of turn of the screw would even make a difference (due to the "slot" which would be oriented in a different way) :o

I have a feeling we are getting extremely anal here... we are talking about nuances and subtleties right? Or is it a very noticable difference?

This is in the same corner as pickup covers or open pickups I think, you can hear the difference.. but it's not defining.