I am officially FED UP with downtuning

[Davey]

If you cant play metal in A-440 you shouldnt be allowed to play guitar

no you dont need your guitar in Drop-Z ... just learn to play properly. and no, i dont buy the 'it sounds more brutal' or whatever point you're trying to make

THE END

[_tom_]

It does sound heavier though :P

[Davey]

It does sound heavier though :P

the $%&# it does

[Crazy_Joe]

Well it's pretty obvious it sounds heavier, though it makes stuff easier to play with less string tension which is cheating a bit imo.

[gwEm]

Drop-Z ...

do you pronounce that 'drop zee' or 'drop zed' ?

essentially i agree - you CAN play metal in standard tuning - i certainly prefer it. drop tunings are more humorous though

[MDV]

Yes, it does.

Its a musical device like anything else, and I for one get a huge kick out of the unearthly savage growl of a guitar strung 12-62 in drop B or A. It pleases my ears immensly. And does sound way heavier.

Plus using downtunings take their own particular kind of skill to sound heavy and musical, but not like youre just hitting low notes all the time for the heaviness fix  :P

[MDV]

Well it's pretty obvious it sounds heavier, though it makes stuff easier to play with less string tension which is cheating a bit imo.

Not with heavier strings :P

[Nadz1lla]

Opeth play in standard E, plenty heavy enough.  :D

I dropped all our bands tuning to drop C# cos I find it easier to sing in that key. It does sound nice though, hehe.

[Jonny]

And if it's a drop tuning you only need one finger to play the power chords, isn't that right?

I don't like tuning as a whole, so I tend to have different guitars with different tunings.

[MDV]

And if it's a drop tuning you only need one finger to play the power chords, isn't that right?

I don't like tuning as a whole, so I tend to have different guitars with different tunings.

That opens up yet more doors.

Drop A:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LNQpLFns-CA

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bq_KJnb7djY

Both damn near impossible in standard. (Hard enough as they are!)

[_tom_]

That just sounds like absolute cr@p though :lol:

[MDV]

*shrugs* matter of taste. I $%&#ing love nile.

[Crazy_Joe]

Well it's pretty obvious it sounds heavier, though it makes stuff easier to play with less string tension which is cheating a bit imo.

Not with heavier strings :P

Well i use 11's in standard tuning, there's only 1 more gauge you can go up to and that's to 12's. That won't be very much tighter, in fact it's probably much easier to bends strings etc. with some 12's in drop b or drop a than it is to do that with 11's in standard tuning.

[Jonny]

I use 10 or 11s, and I like my trem with full springs. Drop A is super fun though. I mostly play in Drop B which covers three of my bands, All Shall Perish, Parkway Drive and Machine Head and also 2 Become 1 Paul Gibert style (I think)

[opprobrium_9]

*shrugs* matter of taste. I $%&#ing love nile.

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