I have been wrong about Eric Clapton

[_tom_]

Clapton is just so dull, which means he gets branded with the term dad-rock :P that track was ok but I'd rather just hear the proper version. Clapton isnt just dad rock, he's grandad rock as well - my grandad asked me if I knew any Eric Clapton last time he was there when I was playing guitar :lol:

[Johnny Mac]

I like all his music really. most musicians progress and experiment. Well most except Yngwie

i do like his older stuff more, but some of his newer stuff has been pretty good too. it's not a problem anyway, i mean even if i hated his newer stuff, i'd still like him because of the older stuff, kind of thing.

I like yng too... :lol:

i hate the term dad rock, it's offensive... not to mention, extremely ironic when the person using it probably likes the pussycat dolls. I don't buy into this fashion thing, and i can't stand people who will like music if it's currently fashionable, but hate it once told by NME, or smash hits, or whatever, that it's now uncool. Music's either good or it's not. :)

People should be their own Popes and listen to what they like without feeling the media, who for most part are arseholes suggesting they should be cos its trendy! That's spineless

I hate the dad rock term too. I appreciate the Yng and don't dislike him  :lol:

[Johnny Mac]

Clapton is just so dull, which means he gets branded with the term dad-rock :P that track was ok but I'd rather just hear the proper version. Clapton isnt just dad rock, he's grandad rock as well - my grandad asked me if I knew any Eric Clapton last time he was there when I was playing guitar :lol:

Well do you? Anyway that version been out as long as the original some 35 years!

So what category does Muddy Waters fall in? Or Robert Johnson?

[Crazy_Joe]

Obviously it has nothing on this version

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XAixXMbyOBc

[Johnny Mac]

Obviously it has nothing on this version

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XAixXMbyOBc

Not for me, Clapton's studio versions my fav.

[Philly Q]

Clapton isnt just dad rock, he's grandad rock as well - my grandad asked me if I knew any Eric Clapton last time he was there when I was playing guitar :lol:

I know you're just kidding, Tom, but the only thing Eric Clapton - and your grandad - have done "wrong" is get older.  You'll be old one day too, but you'll still think your opinions about music are worth listening to.

At least Clapton has aged gracefully, unlike - say - Steven Tyler, who's so full of botox he looks like Joan Rivers' sister.   His music has matured too, he doesn't have the anger and energy of a 25-year-old but really why should he pretend he has?

[MrBump]

His music has matured too, he doesn't have the anger and energy of a 25-year-old but really why should he pretend he has?

Hear, hear!!!

[_tom_]

Yeah I was just kidding, but I still find his music mind numbingly dull :P

[Crazy_Joe]

Obviously it has nothing on this version

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XAixXMbyOBc

Not for me, Clapton's studio versions my fav.

His vocals are nowhere near Marleys standards.

[dave_mc]

[People should be their own Popes and listen to what they like without feeling the media, who for most part are arseholes suggesting they should be cos its trendy! That's spineless

I hate the dad rock term too. I appreciate the Yng and don't dislike him  :lol:

yeah, exactly :)

[38thBeatle]

If Dad rock is a derogatory term then I would like to know why being a father disqualifies you from being able to enjoy music and damning that choice of music. I'd apply my own label to those who come up these things... total b*llocks. Fathers rule!

[Johnny Mac]

Obviously it has nothing on this version

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XAixXMbyOBc

Not for me, Clapton's studio versions my fav.

His vocals are nowhere near Marleys standards.

It's all subjective but I prefer Clapton's on this song.

When i was in my early 20's i was frustrated that i wasn't born in 40's so i could have the 60's first time round.

I agree with you Mr 38th! But look at it this way, Dad Rock V's  Emo? There is no contest is there really.

Tom, Claptons not really dull, more laid back!  :)

[Lew]

I think the point is he doesn't have to try. 
He has done more for music and guitar with Beano/Cream alone than 99% of people ever will.
If he had died after the early stuff like Hendrix, Marley or Lennon did, I reckon he would be just as revered.

[Tellboy]

He has done more for music and guitar with Beano/Cream alone than 99% of people ever will.
If he had died after the early stuff like Hendrix, Marley or Lennon did, I reckon he would be just as revered.

Yep - I was a fanatical fan through his Yardbirds, Mayall (Beano) Cream ("Clapton is God") days - he certainly played a major part in starting the whole Gibson/Marshall sound. Unfortunatelly he lost me after I saw him playing with Delaney & Bonny - he had switched to playing Strats (nothing against them - have one myself) and (to me) had lost all his 'fire/energy' (which I suppose Tom defines as dull?). Shades of what happened to Rod Stewart when he left the Faces (another big disappointment to me). Drink and drugs have certainly been a factor - my (first) wife's best friend used to work in a pub in London - often EC would sit at the bar and get smashed out of his head and get very abusive. One night she'd had enough and refused to serve him and told him to leave. He turned to her and said "Don't you know who I am?" - she said "Yes - you're a ****ing drunken ****er."

I wonder if Hendrix had not choked on his own vomit would Tom be saying the same about him? Probably - I think he was loosing his way before he died. Both contributed a huge amount to the electric guitar - just because they did this when they were younger doesn't change that. Today's music will become tomorrow's "Dad Rock" to the next genereation - it's your turn next Tom  :lol: :lol:

[Crazy_Joe]

You can't really compare him to Hendrix. I think most of this judgment is more on the character than the music. Hendrix was more flamboyant shall we say, an exciting character with a crazy lifestyle. His music was psychedelic and interesting. Whereas i think Clapton gets lumped with being known as a plain dressing sensible blues player.