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Gizmo

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Re: Cornford Carrera?
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2008, 11:38:10 PM »
I like the same sort of tone as what you describe. I have been looking at cornfords too. I've been to try a carerra 2x now but i didnt have the cash at the time. Do now but someting is holding me back. It sounded amazing. Really nice overdrive tones with no pedal.

I havent heard many "great" clips of it. Im suprised they dont release some on their website. There are a few on youtube but the best clips of cornford ive heard are from the hurricane (mainly cos of the players skill).

You should go on to the cornfords new forum. There are a few really good clips of the hurricane. I think McGas is the persons forum name. Really good examples of clean and lead and songs. That is the tone i was looking for but not heard clips of the carerra like that, although in person i got similar sounds which made me smile.

Since its a lot of money and I am picky i have two reservations.

1. The speaker. Now I know you can buy extension cabs but thats not the point, but I would love the option to have difference speaker choices. Celestion Blue is an amazing speaker but its one example of a speaker that is too big for the cab. I saw a harlequin on the website with one in but this would make it even more expensive.

2. If you read through the cornford forum you'll see a comparison of the insides of the amps. The wiring of the harlequin, carerra , and hurricane is different and the posts said that it is why they sound slightly different. I havent tried the hurricane so cant say but those clips are my fav so it could be the carerra isnt quite what im after, but im  only needing it for a bedroom and the hurricane is louder and more expensive.

The carerra is a versatile amp. Ive spoken to people who use them for gigging. Putting pedals in the loops and before will give you all sorts of sounds + changing tubes. I think its a lot more versatile then the harlequin. Although between 2002-2004 pretty much every song/lesson in the guitarist mag and guitar techniques was using a cornford and they were able to get all sorts ofsounds from them. If you have any mags from back then its worth re going back and listening to them.  :lol:

It might cost £100, but a flight to london, a short train ride to kent and a days playing of all amps side by side in Cornford studio would be worth it? If you love the sound and you want to buy new your going to be paying £1k+ for those amps.

dave_mc

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Re: Cornford Carrera?
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2008, 05:23:21 PM »
^ thanks for the reply, gizmo, that's a lot of help. :)

i know what you mean about the clips, there are very few of the carrera, and most, if not all, of the hurricane clips sound amazing (plus I've tried the hurricane and know it can sound like that). you're right about player skill being very important to the clips, too. :)

I actually did register on the cornford forum and make a post on this subject, but didn't think to do a search on the points you made (differences in wiring etc.). I'll do that, thanks for that! :)

The big problem with taking a trip to England is that I know fine rightly (at least with the type of person I am) that it won't cost me £100. To get the cheapest flights, you have to book WAY in advance, and also go at cr@ppy times (middle of the night). I'd probably end up staying overnight (there's not much point in getting to try the amp if you're so tired you can't think or test it properly), so that's more money, eating out, taxis/tube etc., it's going to come to £400 or £500, minimum. plus, the shop could sell the amp half an hour before you get there, so it's risky too. It's bad enough paying several hundred pounds to get to try the amp without paying it only for the thing to be sold before you get there! :( Plus trying in a shop (which is much bigger than the room I'd be using it in at home) won't give all that good an indication of how good the thing sounds at home volumes, anyway (I've been caught out on that before :lol: ). Not having a go at you or anything, I know you're trying to help, and you have valid points, just I think travelling to England to try it is infeasible. :)

And anyway with distance selling regulations, and the fact I haven't tried it, I could just order it and send it back if I didn't like it (only paying the postage, which is likely to be about £40-£50). I'd be able to try it for 7 days or so, in the exact home environment I'd always be using it in. Which seems more sensible (if I do decide to go for it). :)

EDIT: just to clarify what i mean by that- I've already tried the Hurricane, but still don't know how quiet that'd be for home use... only real way to be sure is to have it at home. Trying the Carrera would let me see if I liked it, and if it got a similar sound to the Hurricane at a lower volume, but if I tried both and preferred the Hurricane, I wouldn't be any further on, kind of thing.

As I said, i'm not having a go, I appreciate your input and you brought up a couple of points which I hadn't thought of before. Just letting you know why I don't think a trip to England is sensible. :)
« Last Edit: November 27, 2008, 05:35:48 PM by dave_mc »

Gizmo

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Re: Cornford Carrera?
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2008, 06:57:13 PM »
Thats ok, np just a thought.

Btw the Cornford studio although sells amps wont be out of stock. Its the home of cornford. They have every model in every colour white black and burgandy permantly in stock for buyers to try and they have all cab types and a whole wall of guitars (pics on the cornford forum) you'll see what i mean.

dave_mc

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Re: Cornford Carrera?
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2008, 09:25:35 PM »
yeah, i figured that's what you meant. you're right, they probably wouldn't be out of stock. I still think it's probably not going to happen though. :(

now i need to find those things you were talking about on the cornford forum...

:drink:

EDIT: just looked at the sound lounge, that's awesome, but again size is the problem... it looks to be at least 3-4 times the size of the room i'd be using the amp in, so while I'd be able to try it in an excellent setting, it wouldn't really tell me how loud it'd sound at home...

:)

EDIT: you wouldn't happen to have links to those parts of the Cornford forum you were talking about? I've tried looking for them but can't find them...  :lol: :oops: :drink:
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Re: Cornford Carrera?
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2008, 05:57:43 PM »
awesome, i'll check that later. Thanks! :)

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Re: Cornford Carrera?
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2008, 06:49:12 PM »
I had a hurricane a while back very warm vocal sound with the smoothest mid range, I do really like these amps but I found the 20w lacking in headroom/volume for live situations.

5W might be way too quiet!

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Re: Cornford Carrera?
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2008, 08:24:05 PM »
actually, too quiet would be good for home use! I thought you might pitch in at some point, I remembered you'd got one a while back, thanks :)

I've heard a lot of people saying that the hurricane was a bit too quiet for live use- that'd be one of my major reasons not to go for it, to be honest: the fact that it won't be as quiet as a 5-watter for home use (would probably be way too loud, in fact), but might not be loud enough for gigs, either, in the off-chance that I ever found myself in a band situation. Falling between two stools, kind of thing.

:)

EDIT: I'm checking out that link you posted now, Lew, it looks really good, thanks :)
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 08:26:24 PM by dave_mc »