Gibson: 59 Reissue anniversary

[ailean]

Classic case of charging what the market will bear, they won't make many of them and there are people out there who will pay whatever the cost for a guitar made by a top class luthier.

[Lew]

i see you are not up to date with Gibson's Quality control reputation.

i see you have never played a Navigator either. Try one some day. Then you will know what a £4k LP is supposed to sound like.
the bottom line here is that no matter who made it and no matter what it sounds like, the price is ludicrous for what is on offer.

Woah, hang on there, no need to start a pissingg contest. Have you actually played a Murphy? Murphys are a different kettle of fish to vos etc... it may be overpriced as far as most people are concerned but it will hold its value to the penny and will likely increase.

Gibsons general qc aint great for sure but have you actually played any old Pauls? The qc has never ever been good that's not what Pauls are about! :)

ESP are well made guitars for the price but you can't compare them to a Paul, apart from a similar body shape they are totally different! 8-)

[d1dsj]

Sorry but I would disagree.... I'm not saying it is worth nearly £7000 or whatever either, but as Gibsons chief luthier he would not put together a guitar that was not something special. My mate has a Murphy aged gold top.... so painted top, but that guitar is also superb... something about that one too, for me it's even better than any of mine... '57 R.I Custom, Jimmy Page and a Custom shop L.P DC Pro and they are far from rubbish. To all intent and purpose it looks like any gold top, but there something going on with that one too. Never had the chance to compare the Murphy Gold top to the '59 R.I I had to sell... wish I still had it!

i see you are not up to date with Gibson's Quality control reputation.

Excuse me sir but I am indeed up to speed with some of their issues, however you are talking about a guitar made by a world class luthier. So YOU don't like it... that's cool. I had mates who are players that didn't like the look of the one I had because it looked too "nice", but when they played and heard it they changed their mind. I will say that to get my current L.Ps... 3 of them, I must have played in excess of 150 guitars... and none of mine are shoddy although I did see some that didn't look very clever. I will also say that if you think I'm just defending/ bigging up Gibson 'coz I play them then here's the funny thing, my Yamaha SG is a better built guitar than any of the Gibsons, infact it would be hard to find a guitar built to that level for the price...ANY price, but I prefer the sound of my L.Ps.

i see you have never played a Navigator either. Try one some day. Then you will know what a £4k LP is supposed to sound like.
the bottom line here is that no matter who made it and no matter what it sounds like, the price is ludicrous for what is on offer.

I'm not disagreeing that it's ridiculous that a lump of wood costs so much... let's just say that I KNOW what a real L.P SHOULD sound like, and if it weren't for my persoanl circumstance at the time I would still have the '59 R.I made by Murphy. I buy guitars that I can play, one of the reasons for selling that guitar was 'coz it was never going to be gigged. It was #8 of 10 built in '92 to launch the Historic series, and came with a certificate signed by him. If HE doesn't know how to make an L.P sound like it should then I don't know who could. Like it or not Gibson do actually make SOME good guitars... yes they've sold out and there are lots of quality issues, but from my expereince with them if you do get a good one generally it's a keeper. Also that '59 would be a real collectors piece now too (I'm no collector but don't mind admitting that I wish I still had it for my boys) and about 3 years ago was contacted by someone who wanted to pay some daft amount for it... let's just say I would have doubled my money! Would a Navigator do the same? And for your info Rob Williams also makes top quality guitars... Tele, strat and L.P types... anything you want basically, and I've played guitars that are costing up to 10K and are exceptional.... but are they worth that amount? I doubt it, but someone will buy them... I daresay if I could afford to buy one with the intention of gigging it then maybe.

[d1dsj]

Classic case of charging what the market will bear, they won't make many of them and there are people out there who will pay whatever the cost for a guitar made by a top class luthier.

Exactly! nice one.

[Twinfan]

This new one is not made by Murphy, just painted and aged by him.

Which makes the price all the more awful.  You're paying about £4000 for his name.....

[Lew]

This new one is not made by Murphy, just painted and aged by him.

Which makes the price all the more awful.  You're paying about £4000 for his name.....

Doh!

[Ratrod]

Rediculous. Anyone who pays that for that guitar should be commited.

Same old cr@ppy tuners, strap buttons and mediocre pickups.

[HTH AMPS]

the phrase "a fool and his money" comes to mind  :roll:

I will say though, I played a Murphy 'burst in Sound Control Newcastle (RIP) many years ago and it was a gorgeous guitar - uber-light, resonant and a fantastic tone right out the box.  I seem to remember them asking £4k at the time which me and my mate thought was insane at the time (and still would even now).  It did look like the real deal though, the aging was spot on.

Still, if I had £4k given to spend ONLY on guitars I'd have two R7s instead.

[f.sardis]

acrylic inlays  :lol:
not even real Mother of Pearl.

[FernandoDuarte]

acrylic inlays  :lol:
not even real Mother of Pearl.

:? tsk tsk

[Will]

acrylic inlays  :lol:
not even real Mother of Pearl.

I'm not sure the originals had MOP?

[f.sardis]

fair enough if the originals did not have real MOP but why not give me real if you charge me that much? or why not charge me less?
I mean, where is the £7k value in this guitar? I see nothing special about it and no matter how good it plays or sounds (which is subjective), the cost of materials and the hours to make it do not justify the price.

[HTH AMPS]

I find it interesting to note how adgitated people get over a £7k guitar - what really pisses me off is how expensive cars are, now that's REALLY bad value AND they depreciate much worse than any guitar.  No guitar's value can go from £10k to well under £1k in ten years (unless it's smashed beyond repair).

[Sifu Ben]

Look at it in context. It's just over twice the price of a VOS for a very limited edition custom shop with the Murphy ageing. From an investment  PoV (and this is an investment piece, I can't see anyone buying it for gigging) not bad money. Now we can go into the evils of guitar investment all we like, but it exists and the manufacturers are in buisness to make money after all.

[Tellboy]

acrylic inlays  :lol:
not even real Mother of Pearl.

I'm not sure the originals had MOP?

I think they used abalone (sea snail shell) for inlays